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Old 12-05-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I doubt he said that about the Tea party seeing how its been corrupted by the neo cons. What the tea party was SUPPOSED to be is what these men stand for. Fiscally conservative Socially liberal.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:39 PM
 
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What the tea party was SUPPOSED to be is what these men stand for. Fiscally conservative Socially liberal.
Apparently they didn't get your memo.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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That's what the tea party started out as and that's what the 4 members that were kicked off that committee are. Look them up.I know for a fact Amash and Jones are Ron Paul republicans.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I doubt he said that about the Tea party seeing how its been corrupted by the neo cons. What the tea party was SUPPOSED to be is what these men stand for. Fiscally conservative Socially liberal.

Do you mean socially liberal like Ron Paul who doesn't believe in a separation of church and state, believes the purpose of the Second Amendment is to prevent government tyranny, opposes Affirmative Action, opposes abortion and even introduced the Sanctity of Life Act in 2005, opposes sexual harassment laws, opposes same-sex marriage and cosponsors the Marriage Protection Act in each new Congress?
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:00 AM
 
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Whatever the Republicans thought their direction was its ended up as just a party of whiners addicted to rightwing extremist media which just fans the flames for a general attitude of hate for everything..
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:30 AM
 
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Which Ron Paul are you talking about? The one that says US sovereignty is good, or the one that said we have nothing to fear from globalization?
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I doubt he said that about the Tea party seeing how its been corrupted by the neo cons. What the tea party was SUPPOSED to be is what these men stand for. Fiscally conservative Socially liberal.
He warns the GOP, but as for the TP and Ron Paul, - they went separate ways in late 2007 when the TP became a GOP lap-dog.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:48 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Ron Paul is the Godfather of the TEA Party movement, to a Constitutionally correct government.

The two Parties are on the same path, or have you not noticed. One is fast tracking it and the other is in slow motion. The goal is the same.

Further proof that the Constitution is going to be marginalized in the coming years.
Something big is going to have to happen, to change the direction we are on.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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According to analysis of OMB numbers by economist Veronique de Rugy, the effect of nixing the Bush tax cuts on the rich only, the top 2%, would be $848 billion over 10 years. If you add the estate tax and a couple other taxes on the rich, the pot grows to $967 billion over 10 years.

Expiring Bush-Era Tax Cuts for the Rich Doesn't Get Rid of a Spending Problem | Mercatus


So that is $97 billion per year, which is only 9 percent of our current annual deficit of $1.1 trillion. So why is Obama so hung up over 9 pct of the solution to the problem? What if the whole thing is not about the debt, not about even the rich.

Grover Norquist argues that this is Obama's way to split the GOP base and the GOP-controlled house. He recounts the lesson of HW Bush going back on his "no new taxes" pledge of 1988. After he raised taxes (his hand having been forced by the D-controlled house) there was a rift between HW Bush, and the GOP base. The result--HW lost the election in 1992, and Dems got back the WH.

In short, perhaps this whole exercise is entirely phony debate. It's just a classic wedge politics ploy being played to perfection by Obama, with of course aid and abetment from the MSM, who will be crying in their martinis when their taxes go up.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:44 AM
 
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it is the republicans playing to obama, yet again, in more proof that they are too stupid to even be considered a separate party anymore. i see coburn is on board with tax hikes but not addressing anything else that is causing our soon to be meltdown.

as for paying more taxes, the highest earners (like geithner) probably just won't pay, because they are government connected and they know what the loopholes are. THE LOOPHOLES are not even being addressed.

let the democrats have their fiscal curb crisis and THEN write your own legislation and challenge the democrats to pass or ignore it. ask your republican representative:

do they or do they not believe in the private sector anymore?
do they or do they not believe that the government only administers private sector money, and doesn't actually generate it?
do they believe that printing money via the government is the answer?
or do they believe in a bigger private sector and manufacturing base?

do they want to continue on the path to being greece, or go in a different direction-because we understand clearly what is happening in greece and other european countries now-and it isn't good.

there is no point in having a 2 party system anymore if both parties act the same.it eliminates any checks and balances.

it's the same as having a government agency, the SEC, which enables fraud under the guise of being there to stop it.
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