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Old 12-07-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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It is not their responsibility.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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It is not their responsibility.
When it involves the little people of other countries and their well being, it is not our business.

But somehow when there is money to be made in meddling with other countries, through political interference, economic or military actions by the criminal politicians it is all OK.

Gotcha!
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They are not breaking any laws because they lobby our government to set the foreign trade policies that benefit them and screw everyone else, or they just go into politics and make the policies themselves for their respective industry.
Our foreign trade policies has nothing to do with the labor and working environment in other countries.
These third world countries are where we were in 1911 with the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory conditions.

The only way we citizens can make a stand is to not buy their goods. But that won't happen.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:54 PM
 
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I'll wager that most of the "Walmart haters" on this thread shop at Walmart to save some bucks. They just won't come out of the Walmart closet....
I don't need to "save some bucks" by buying cheap crap.......as SOME others do.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Account of the fire

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/wo...pagewanted=all

The same thing (blocked fire exits) have happened in America too.

In 1991 Hamlet chicken processing plant fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The Hamlet food processing plant fire was an industrial fire in Hamlet, North Carolina, at the Imperial Foods processing plant on September 3, 1991, due to a failure in a hydraulic line. Twenty-five were killed and 55 injured in the fire, trapped behind locked fire doors.
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A federal investigation was launched, which resulted in the owners receiving a 20-year prison sentence. The company received the highest fine in the history of North Carolina.[3] As a result, the state passed several worker safety laws.
I was looking at the Bangladesh building code and it is really sparse to say the least.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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Amazing how "corporations are people, too" right up until they're called upon to act like we rightfully expect people to - with ethics, responsibility, empathy etc.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:07 PM
 
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Our foreign trade policies has nothing to do with the labor and working environment in other countries.
These third world countries are where we were in 1911 with the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory conditions.

The only way we citizens can make a stand is to not buy their goods. But that won't happen.
But both the worker and customer were American's in 1911, both wages and product pricing were dictated in such a way in the USA market that the workers could afford the items.

Do you think the Chinese making 200 bucks a month, living in company dorm rooms could afford everything they make when their customers are not Chinese in this global economy but other countries citizens?

Furthermore, if the citizens of this country united together to take a stand against the corrupt corporations of this country, like Walmart, as you suggested, whom are also part of the 1% that control the government, do you actually think they would stand idly by when their political and business interests are at stake and not launch a media campaign to smear those that would speak out against them.

Using labels such as communist, union thugs, and such to bring it down.

The current plan is to bring everyone to the same level in this global economy with our overlords in control of everything.
The only place these people should be is hanging from a lamp post by their intestines.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Amazing how "corporations are people, too" right up until they're called upon to act like we rightfully expect people to - with ethics, responsibility, empathy etc.
Now which corporation would that be ? Just who owns and runs that factory because it's NOT Walmart.

They do deals in third world countries for the same reason the US once did them.
It was labor and government that made changes to laws.

These third world countries have to develop like we did. Until they do they will be used by manufacturer's all over the world for their cheap production prices.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:24 PM
 
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Now which corporation would that be ? Just who owns and runs that factory because it's NOT Walmart.

They do deals in third world countries for the same reason the US once did them.
It was labor and government that made changes to laws.

These third world countries have to develop like we did. Until they do they will be used by manufacturer's all over the world for their cheap production prices.
Care to address how it is not the same situation we went through?

If your intent is to allow them to develop for their own benefit and has benevolence in mind, then surely you must also be all for non intervention and in keeping other countries from exploiting them for their own gain?
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Care to address how it is not the same situation we went through?

If your intent is to allow them to develop for their own benefit and has benevolence in mind, then surely you must also be all for non intervention and in keeping other countries from exploiting them for their own gain?
I'm all for sovereign rule. A country has a government and a people.

Are you all for invading and taking over and implementing your rule of law over them ?
The US cannot force any country to change their labor laws. We are not the UN and even the UN couldn't do it.

I'm just being pragmatic here. It is what it is. I always look at labels and try to buy US made.
I do not shop at Walmart anymore once they dropped their "Proudly made in the US" campaign.
I do not buy imported fruit/vegetable/meat thanks to COOL labeling.

Your wallet is what will make change happen. But not enough of us are doing it.
You can't demand another country make 50-100 years of law/regulations overnight and expect them to just do it.
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