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What???? Republicans working TOGETHER with evil fascist Democrats in service of the nation? We can't have that. No no - we must obstruct anything and everything. Compromise and negotiation are for the weak. Boehner has sold out - he should have staunchly maintained his position and thereby block any and all progress.
That's the GOP way - our way or, well, or we'll throw any wrench we have in order to make this nation stumble and fall.
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The House Republicans need a new leader who will stand tall, stick it to the liberals, and will do what it takes to sacrifice the health of the economy and the people of the USA for its own good.
In other words, just more of the same old "we want this President (and the country) to fail"....for its own good, of course!
Boehner has been dealt an incredibly weak hand to play. The GOP fumbling away of Senate seats via wing nuts in both '10 and '12, left him in this mess.
Obama plus 2 GOP chambers is a far different situation than what we are in, where the Senate has a solid Democratic majority (with 60 seats likely in '16 thanks to a inept GOP performance this year and '10).
That makes a fiscal cliff deal easy to pass no matter the House Speaker w/o the TP. Figure 110 GOP votes w/o the TP on a deal featuring parts each party hates, plus 110 Dems. No deal further weakens the GOP hand, as by default, the POTUS gets the top tax rate he wants. My hunch is a deal would mean he'd split the increase.
"Boehner has been dealt an incredibly weak hand to play."
Real leaders create their own opportunities.
If the hand he is playing is weak, he has himself to blame for not being a more effective leader.
Former Speaker and failed presidential candidate Newt Gingrich was nominated for the position of Speaker on Wednesday by conservative Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-Texas). There was no second.
Everyone in the Republican party knows that Obama has the upper hand. Obama may not be holding a full house, but he's most certainly holding something better than the King high the Republicans are in no way, shape or form ready to bluff on.
That's nice, and insane, as it would expedite the Senate Dem supermajority to 2014.
A tax hike for 250k or 500k perhaps is coming, 11/6 dictated that. So getting it at a reduced level versus the cliff default position would be the best one can do with a weak hand.
The fault lies with the GOP for forcing a cliff deal that only harmed them unless they won all 3 branches 11/6. That was as utterly idiotic as me betting our monthly operating profit on a roulette wheel spin. It also lies with a Congress 12 years ago too LAZY to work out a deal that was not temporary.
Good post man.
Maybe we can give in on the tax rate increase and in turn get some real entitlement reform? Who am I kidding? Obama is as we speak pushing a mini-stimulus as part of the deal.
Obama and all the rest of them will stop spending when we vote their sorry arses out of office.
Yea, toss out Boehner. Go ahead. Then replace him with someone who is ideologically purer.
That's the ticket!! Double down on the same stupidity that has you where you are today. Obstruct the president that just won another term....how smart.
I see that nothing was learned last month. No soul searching whatsoever. You guys just can't help yourselves...that's what I love about Republicans.
Maybe we can give in on the tax rate increase and in turn get some real entitlement reform? Who am I kidding? Obama is as we speak pushing a mini-stimulus as part of the deal.
Obama and all the rest of them will stop spending when we vote their sorry arses out of office.
I'm hopeful a 2nd Grand Bargain is possible, as the WH and JB folks are in talks. It needs to stay solely within those 2 groups. Neither party wanted GB1, but I think GB2 is doable, with a tad over 100 votes from each, leaving the TP kids on the timeout steps.
2nd termers think legacy, not reelection, and that tends to temper big spending and big tax cuts or reckless war spending in term 2.
I'm hopeful a 2nd Grand Bargain is possible, as the WH and JB folks are in talks. It needs to stay solely within those 2 groups. Neither party wanted GB1, but I think GB2 is doable, with a tad over 100 votes from each, leaving the TP kids on the timeout steps.
2nd termers think legacy, not reelection, and that tends to temper big spending and big tax cuts or reckless war spending in term 2.
Don't believe everything you hear about the Tea Party.
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