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You're the one who's deflecting. You are obsessed with the "poor decisions" of poor people, but you don't bat an eye when rich people (who actually have power and influence) make far worse decisions. What's with the double standard?
Why do you say they are poor people? How many 25+ middle class or rich males and females are still living with their parents and are unemployed, don't pay their parents a dime and are unwilling to work to pay the bills?
Of course there are. I'm not disputing that. But tell me this? Why is it we continue to allow companies like Walmart who actually enable their workers to be on government bennies, which we ALL pay for? You and I both know those bennies ain't free. We're paying for it. Why not pay their employees a bit more so that they don't need to rely on the government. In the meantime, they get all sorts of breaks, and reap in sick profits for peddling Chinese crap! Like I said, the blame isn't all in one place. We as a country have to get back on track.
Heck, I wanted Marty to come back to Cleveland. He has had quite a successful career, and the one thing that has always alluded him is that Super Bowl berth. My thought is if he came back here, it may come full circle. You know, that Karma... circle of life thing, LOL! I see you watch A Football Life Cleveland 95 too. I sit back and think, ahhhh what could have been, had that douche Art Modell not moved the franchise. At any rate, I do like our new owner, and it's refreshing to see that he actually cares and appears to be proactive in turning this franchise around, and restoring a great football tradition.
So the government should force Walmart to pay higher wages? Just Walmart or everybody? My son just go hired at the local grocery store to sack groceries. He's sixteen. Should he get paid $20 an hour because that is what something like that would entail. Maybe folks need to move up from being a cashier? Or if your happy being a cashier for life then don't have a family and live in a one room apartment and pay for yourself? That is what it comes down to be responsible for yourself. I would rather see the money handed to folk go towards job training and the like. Get em outta of that crap job if they want to. How many would sign up and actually put in the time and effort to go to work and then go to class or what have you after work? I doubt many because they could do it now but choose not to.
Byner's fumble will haunt Marty to his grave. LOL. In KC we have Lin Elliott and his three missed field goals in '85 against Indy or the champ game in Buffalo in '93 when Montana tossed a pick right before halftime as we were going in to score then got knocked out. The man who preached no turnovers was snakebit. Hey if Balt was in Cleveland still you'd have Flacco running the ship and an old defense falling apart. Don't look back look foreward as Obama says. lol
Wow...you wrote all that to show that you don't comprehend the OP?
Who said anything about calling those who "work three jobs" worthless individuals? Certainly not me.
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The narrative of this thread and the right-wing in general, is that there is a mass of people in America -- the 47% that don't pay income taxes -- who are a drag on country. This then slips into calling them "dead beats."
But who are these 47%? They are largely low income workers, who have at least one job and often more than one, who just are below the line required to pay taxes; retirees, who have worked their entire lives prior to earning retirement; those who are disabled.
And where do those "dead beats" live? Most live in the low-wage right-to-work South:
See exclusion is the key to understanding conservatism and how it is against democracy and democratic institutions.
In a truly democratic society being a citizen of that society automatically conveys worth within that society. In a true democracy the state/society recognizes you as a citizen who has a voice and political interests.
conservatism fundamentally rejects this idea. To conservatives only those citizens whom they deem worthy should have access to that recognition from the state/society.
Only the interests of those people should matter to and concern the government.
This is why conservatives hate liberals above all, because conservatives know without liberals in the government who themselves are privileged and wield power, they could completely eliminate having to even recognize those citizens.
This is why when Mitt Rmoney said he'd ignore the 47% of people who are beyond help was so revealing, because this is the heart of conservative political ideology.
They want to ignore the lives, the political and social interests of millions and millions of Americans. This is why they struggle against making voting easier. This is why they hate unions, the feminist movement, the civil rights movement, the homosexual movement, the movement for mexican immigrants, single moms, the poor etc and so on.
These are groups of people that conservatism says are fckd up and are the problem. To conservatives these various groups and their political interests are illegitimate and destroying America and shouldn't be recognized by the society/state.
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What we see here is what we expect to see. Far right wingers - driven by hatred, feelings of inadequacy, extreme selfishness, etc - take a problem that actually does exist and should be addressed, then attempt to inflate the severity of said problem by lying and painting with an ever broader brush. Not satisfied with reality, they start labeling retirees, the actually disabled, the working poor, etc as "worthless losers" in order to inflate the numbers. Then, of course, they feign outrage and pretend that isn't what they're doing.
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Government socialist policies (everyone is entitled to own a home, even those who do not qualify) built the housing bubble...*POP*! Then they blame the banks for shifting the enormous risk on to someone else.
Look everyone! A lie! How many years has the right been pushing this lie now? Repeating it over and over doesn't magically make it true.
Democrats filibustered the civil rights movement. Nuff said.
Immigration is destroying the country. Liberals are all for it. Why?
Nothing wrong with poor folks. Those who leech off society I have a problem with.
Did I miss anything in your stereotypical liberal rant?
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You know, that Karma... circle of life thing, LOL!
I see you watch A Football Life Cleveland 95 too. I sit back and think, ahhhh what could have been, had that douche Art Modell not moved the franchise.
At any rate, I do like our new owner, and it's refreshing to see that he actually cares and appears to be proactive in turning this franchise around, and restoring a great football tradition.
