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Old 12-15-2012, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Respectfully...limpy idea's are useless. There is no such thing as trying. Trying is hoping...a society that hopes something that just happened does not happen again is a F...up society. Change is required immediately, and gun issues are not part of an immediate consequence obviously.
Seems like you're repeating yourself. Do you actually have a point?? If so, what is it??
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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This young woman was worth more than every G...D.... gun in America.

Family, friends remember the brave, caring legacy of Sandy Hook teacher Vicki Soto, 27 - NY Daily News
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:10 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Default Morgan Freeman blames the media.

Morgan Freeman on Adam Lanza - National Facebook | Examiner.com

"Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine?"
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Autism...Aspergers disease....something that can be in mild versions or close to very sick disturbed people...
Why do people always blame Autism? I can't think of one Autistic person who has ever killed anyone. Generally Autistic people are pretty harmless. Think Rain Man. It would be very unusual for an Autistic person to kill anyone.

BTW Aspergers is a mental disorder, not a disease.

Anyways, I believe the reports are that he had Personality Disorder, not Autism.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Generalizations always have sucked and they always will. Gun ownership does not make you a bad person. That's just silly.

Therein lies the problem that prevents any kind of solution to the problem of gun violence: The gun control folks think you must be some crazy redneck if you actually own guns. Gun owners think that gun control folks are Utopian idiots who have lost touch with reality who will inadvertently disarm everyone but criminals with their misguided cause. Neither point of view is constructive. Neither solves anything.

We don't know what happened yet. Did he violently force her to unlock the gun cabinet before killing her? If so, he'd have found a way to get guns from some other source. Somebody who would kill their own mother and 20 little kids would certainly find a way to get what they wanted one way or another. The bigger question in my mind: Why wasn't this guy locked up in a mental institution?
Talk about projecting.

Did you even read what I wrote? I didn't say owning guns makes you a bad person. Try again.

I also did not say anything on the the right to bear arms.

What I did say was this woman's behavior was irresponsible. Taking a mentally-ill son to gun shows and target practice is STUPID and IRRESPONSIBLE. Being "passionate" about firearms with a mentally-ill adolescent/young adult in the house is irresponsible.

And, yes, "Why wasn't this guy locked up in a mental institution?"

Because the parents were irresponsible and in denial. Just like Loughner's parents. Just like very parent who doesn't want to accept how sick their kid really is. Loughner's dad knew his kid was sick. Didn't do anything about it, either.

Her former husband/Lanza's father earns $450k/yr, was paying her $10k/mo. alimony. The woman didn't have to work. And she apparently didn't need to think, either. Had she engaged even ten brain cells, she could have seen this coming.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/R...ed-4120058.php

These parents do not get off scot free.

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Old 12-15-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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I thought the initial reports were that his mom was the teacher, it seems even crazier that it may have been random. What kind of person kills kids for the hell of it. Just sickening.
Because invading a police precinct would have been much less successful.

Every school should have at least a handful of trained, armed teachers carrying at all times.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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Seems like you're repeating yourself. Do you actually have a point?? If so, what is it??
well...suit your peculiar abilities then with the rest.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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Because invading a police precinct would have been much less successful.

Every school should have at least a handful of trained, armed teachers carrying at all times.
I would arm our soldiers and put them in schools, bring them home.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Now it's not just the mother's fault, it's the parents'!



And his brother was qualified to make this diagnosis because???

I would assume that a psychologist made the diagnosis, and his brother being a close family member would know about his brother's mental health history.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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I would arm our soldiers and put them in schools, bring them home.
Unnecessary. Not to mention would use up a LOT of manpower, there are a lot of schools in the country.
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