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Old 12-15-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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I'm up for any solution that would end such tragedies but I don't know if banning guns would be the answer, there are way too many guns out there. I do know one thing, three thousand died on September 11th without a single shot being fired.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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I'm up for any solution that would end such tragedies but I don't know if banning guns would be the answer, there are way too many guns out there. I do know one thing, three thousand died on September 11th without a single shot being fired.
If only the school staff had been armed, many children's lives would have been saved.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Upper Bucks County, PA.
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White out on the 2nd Amendment, 90 days to turn in firearms voluntarily with compensation.
The right to arms of the citizen is not in any manner dependent upon the 2nd Amendment for its existence.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:48 AM
 
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If only the school staff had been armed, many children's lives would have been saved.
Outstanding idea! Let's arm kindergarten teachers! That is so obviously the solution to gun violence: more guns.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The right to arms of the citizen is not in any manner dependent upon the 2nd Amendment for its existence.
True. You are born with the personal liberty to possess an efficient way of securing your safety and your freedom. The 2nd Amendment is merely a reflection of this on paper.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:16 AM
 
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What's wrong with this country is a failure to expect/take personal responsibility.
Sorry, but that's a BS argument. The whole basis of mental illness is that you don't have the mental capacity to take personal responsibility, or sometimes to even understand what's real or right from wrong. We don't have sane criminals--robbers or drug lords--walking into schools or movie theaters or public events and randomly shooting down everyone they see--those crimes are done by people with mental illness.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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Its always something or someone elses fault with liberals.
Correct. To liberals the shooter isn't evil. He's just some kind of victim.

Only someone who would buy a gun is evil --- his mother was evil. The mother owned the guns, so all the evil was in her, the individual who chose to use the guns to murder people is just good.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Its always something or someone elses fault with liberals.
I actually blame the media and the teachers that taught them. There once was a time when we had decent journalists and last night we would have known everything we needed to know about the shooter. Now we just have a bunch of opinion jockeys and pretty faces that regurgitate what we just saw and heard for ourselves at a press conference.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:22 AM
 
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It would be a better country if this could be accomplished. And make it a 30 year minimum prison sentence to be in possession of an illegal handgun. These gangbangers would be throwing theirs into the river.
Laws like that aren't working to stop illegal drugs.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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The argument from gun nuts boils down to this: we can't stop gun violence, so don't bother trying.
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