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Old 12-16-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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The ball is in his court. He controls the senate and has 55 Dem senators. Does he have the guts or is he all mouth? Is he scared of red state Dems losing their seats?
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Not unless he wishes to commit political suicide.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Historically, Reid has been pretty good about gun rights. He's a native Nevadan, and here in Nevada, we don't share the paranoia about them that so many other people in this country have.

That said, I don't personally believe that Reid will be seeking another term in 2016. He'll be nearly 77 years old on election day, and I expect him to choose retirement instead. He is a power hungry b@stard, though, so I can't say I'd be that surprised if he did run for reelection.

So, assuming that this is his last term, I could see him championing a gun control bill after it's introduced. He won't be the one to introduce it, though. Diane Feinstein has already announced that she's going to do it, which shouldn't surprise anyone. With its current makeup, the senate will pass any gun control bill it sees.

As for Obama, an examination of his voting record and his own statements can lead any rational person to only one conclusion - he'll sign any gun control bill that lands on his desk. There's absolutely no question about that. I'm not one of those "Obama wants to take your guns away!" people, but the facts are the facts, and he's never shown any indication that he supports gun rights in any way, shape or form, but he's shown the opposite quite a few times. He also doesn't need to take reelection into consideration.

So it's up to the Republican controlled house to stop the madness. Frankly, I'm not too optimistic that they'll be successful, if they even bother to try. What happened on Friday has evoked a strong emotional response in virtually everyone - as it should have - and bad knee-jerk legislation has a way of garnering far too much support in situations like this.

I'm waiting for my girlfriend to get ready right now, and then we're heading to two different gun stores, for two different reasons. First, I've been kicking around the idea of adding an AR-15 to my collection for over a year, and after Friday's tragedy, now's the time. They're only going to get more expensive from this point forward. Second, I'm going to invest in some other "Evil Black Rifles" (EBRs), to simply put in the safe so they can increase in value. I should be able to make a healthy profit on them after the inevitable happens and more bad legislation is passed. Worst case scenario is that I sell them for about what I paid, since they'll all still be brand new and unfired.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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I would like to see him try. Make Democrats like Pryor,Baucus,Johnson,Landrieau make tough votes that could end their careers.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:30 PM
 
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Absolutely. If it's framed as "sensible gun control" and done incrementally, I think it stands a good chance of passing.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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No, because the House would never consider it and the GOP in the senate would filibuster. If anything he should keep pushing votes like the We like disabled people vote that 38 republicans voted against, or the oldie but goodie that the GOP in the senate filibustered...rape victims deserve their day in court bill. If the GOP won't let anything pass at least you can bring up votes that make them look like *******s
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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No, because the House would never consider it and the GOP in the senate would filibuster. If anything he should keep pushing votes like the We like disabled people vote that 38 republicans voted against, or the oldie but goodie that the GOP in the senate filibustered...rape victims deserve their day in court bill. If the GOP won't let anything pass at least you can bring up votes that make them look like *******s

C'mon. Reid needs to push for gun control. Use the same underhanded tactics he used to pass Obamacare and see what happens. Rules and procedures don't matter to him anyways.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: NC
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C'mon. Reid needs to push for gun control. Use the same underhanded tactics he used to pass Obamacare and see what happens. Rules and procedures don't matter to him anyways.
That doesn't work when you only control one body. Reid is not stupid. Furthermore the way the Senate rule are set up all you need is 1 Republican to say no and then nothing will happen because they need 60 votes to proceed.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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'Should'? Of course he will, with Chuck U Schumer at his side. Never let a crisis go to waste.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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I hope he does, it will **** of more law abiding citizens and help wake them up to how power hungry and out of control the fedguv is.
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