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Old 01-18-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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The firearms industry is unwelcome, so we bere in the West, and lest I be remiss, the South, should be included as well, welcome the industry, and the jobs that go with it, with as many red carpets as we can throw down. I should say that CA is not included as part of the West anymore, so, I offer that our shooting bretheren there, join up with us.
Jobs in the firearms business....it don't get any better. Have a good life NE US. We will take what you dont want. Yippeeeee!!!!
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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New England used to be somewhat free, fiscally responsible and self sufficient, but the Mass. liberals breed like flies and don't stay in their own state. Too bad, but it's so crowded and expensive to live here that true Americans have been seeking freer pastures for a while. Hopefully they'll be at least a few acres left that the liberals haven't yet ruined.

As to the firearms industry, I despair that ANY productive business can survive our nation's over-regulated, tax-mad and corrupt government. Soon we won't make ANYTHING here in America anymore, and sadly some people think a nation can actually survive that way.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The firearms industry is unwelcome, so we bere in the West, and lest I be remiss, the South, should be included as well, welcome the industry, and the jobs that go with it, with as many red carpets as we can throw down. I should say that CA is not included as part of the West anymore, so, I offer that our shooting bretheren there, join up with us.
Jobs in the firearms business....it don't get any better. Have a good life NE US. We will take what you dont want. Yippeeeee!!!!
Another RW wet dream.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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The Northeast region has a GDP that CRUSHES the Southern states. I doubt anyone would care if gun manufacturers left.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The Northeast region has a GDP that CRUSHES the Southern states. I doubt anyone would care if gun manufacturers left.
How about their employees? Do you think they would feel really safe with Obama unemployment insurance?
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: NJ
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How about their employees? Do you think they would feel really safe with Obama unemployment insurance?

Gun mfg is heavily automated. Don't need many people. Sturm Ruger has just 1,200 (yahoo financials as it is publicly traded). Corp is in Ct, and their execs wanted it that way (I worked with some of their execs before elsewhere). Corps payroll, I would bet, dwarfs the Az plant, despite having fewer employees. Gross payroll $ drives taxes collected and discretionary income; it is not driven by headcount.

The few warm bodies can be anywhere-they mfg mostly in Az. It's a cheap labor force, and if they want parts from Mexico, it is a feasable option, too.

And yes, the financial industry accounts for more GDP in a day than US gun mfg in a month. When Marlin Firearms closed in Ct, the state offered NOTHING. When a Wall st trading firm wanted to relo from Wilton to Stamford, Ct, the state knowing they could move to NJ or NY offered several million. The latter mattered far more than a few hundred jobs at the dying Marlin plant to state coffers and GDP. I'm no fan of Wall St, but it would not be logical for the state to choose firearm mfg in an era w/o 5 figure headcounts over Wall St, when doling out incentives.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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The firearms industry is unwelcome,.......
Hold your horses, PA is one of the most gun friendly states in the country and a few other New England states are not far behind.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Gun mfg is heavily automated. Don't need many people. Sturm Ruger has just 1,200 (yahoo financials as it is publicly traded). Corp is in Ct, and their execs wanted it that way (I worked with some of their execs before elsewhere). Corps payroll, I would bet, dwarfs the Az plant, despite having fewer employees. Gross payroll $ drives taxes collected and discretionary income; it is not driven by headcount.

The few warm bodies can be anywhere-they mfg mostly in Az. It's a cheap labor force, and if they want parts from Mexico, it is a feasable option, too.

And yes, the financial industry accounts for more GDP in a day than US gun mfg in a month. When Marlin Firearms closed in Ct, the state offered NOTHING. When a Wall st trading firm wanted to relo from Wilton to Stamford, Ct, the state knowing they could move to NJ or NY offered several million. The latter mattered far more than a few hundred jobs at the dying Marlin plant to state coffers and GDP. I'm no fan of Wall St, but it would not be logical for the state to choose firearm mfg in an era w/o 5 figure headcounts over Wall St, when doling out incentives.
Sturm & Ruger have been making their semi-automatic pistols near Prescott, Arizona, for over 20 years and they are a good company in Yavapai County, about 70 miles northwest of Phoenix.

They picked a great location for the facility because Arizona for the most part is a very pro-2nd Amendment state, and so is the City of Prescott and all the areas around it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Sturm & Ruger have been making their semi-automatic pistols near Prescott, Arizona, for over 20 years and they are a good company in Yavapai County, about 70 miles northwest of Phoenix.

They picked a great location for the facility because Arizona for the most part is a very pro-2nd Amendment state, and so is the City of Prescott and all the areas around it.

Great. I have been in Prescott, and yes, for them, the few hundred jobs are a big deal. But on the Gold Coast where their headquarters is located, the same jobs would produce a big yawn. That is where roysoldboy jumped the shark. I was visiting Ct when Marlin announced their closing; also a facility with a few hundred jobs, an annual payroll in the low teens of millions. In a region like Southern Ct, where the Gold Coast trading firms have payrolls with bonuses dozens of times that, a closure like that gets scant attention, as ideology does not drive the Economic Development team. Just show them your anticipated gross payroll and annual capital expenditures, and both need to be far larger than the levels of firearms mfg today.

Now in my teen years, remington employed many times Sturm Ruger's 2013 headcount, as those were labor intensive days.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:41 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Another RW wet dream.
Seems to me its a left wing wet dream. Banish those evil gun makers from your bastions of the New Utopia. Nice discourse thogh. Lol....so well thought through. I stand skewered, by your scintillating wit. Lmao ...humor IS in the eye after all
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