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Old 12-17-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
New Orleans and San Pedro Sula aren't Chicago peers. This is all discussed in the data. Are you illiterate?
Here is your claim: Chicago isthe world's deadliest city.

And two different poster have pointed out it is a BS claim, and that Chicago doesn't even make the Top-50.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Bethesda, MD
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Here is your claim: Chicago isthe world's deadliest city.

And two different poster have pointed out it is a BS claim, and that Chicago doesn't even make the Top-50.
Try refuting this claim: Chicago is the deadliest city for black boys/men between the ages of 14-38.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The "gun ban" isn't what made the murder rate drop....and it isn't even a real gun ban.


Crime in Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The argument here is that Chicago has a "gun ban" and yet it is "the world's deadliest city". But, when few posters looked into the hard facts about Chicago, they discovered two things:

1. The city's murder rate has been cut to half since the ban went into effect
2. The city is no longer even in Top-50 most deadlied cities on the planet

The people who are making these claims are really making a case for gun bans. It would have been better to say nothing.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Try refuting this claim: Chicago is the deadliest city for black boys/men between the ages of 14-38.
It's the deadliest city among black boys/men aged 14-38 named is Terell. After all Terell Smith died there in July and he was a 23 yr old black male.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Bethesda, MD
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It's the deadliest city among black boys/men aged 14-38 named is Terell. After all Terell Smith died there in July and he was a 23 yr old black male.
I don't understand the above post... How does this refute the point that Chicago is the deadliest city for black boys and men?
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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But then who?
No politician or pundit ever got elected, rich or famous by telling the masses that they are part of the problem.

Fixing Chicago would take effort and money by the city, personal accountability (this never sells well ) and lots and lots of grass-roots effort.

Something like what Giuliani did in NYC....although he was largely reviled for it until 911.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
The argument here is that Chicago has a "gun ban" and yet it is "the world's deadliest city". But, when few posters looked into the hard facts about Chicago, they discovered two things:

1. The city's murder rate has been cut to half since the ban went into effect
2. The city is no longer even in Top-50 most deadlied cities on the planet

The people who are making these claims are really making a case for gun bans. It would have been better to say nothing.
There is no statistically credible evidence that the gun ban had anything to do with the decrease in murders. Additionally, the source I cited pointed out that the decrease in murders was a countrywide phenomenon.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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Really? You can't care for the kids that live in these neighborhoods?
not past a certain age threshold, no.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don't understand the above post... How does this refute the point that Chicago is the deadliest city for black boys and men?
I am not interested in refuting everything people sling on the wall. The original claims have been proven false, and now you are trying something else hoping it might hold water. The truth is they is as likely to be a fablication just like the earlier claims.

I think Kinsasha is the deadliest among the black boys and men. Refute that.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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It's the deadliest city among black boys/men aged 14-38 named is Terell. After all Terell Smith died there in July and he was a 23 yr old black male.
Deadliest for 14-38 males in Northern Illinois. Refute that!!!
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