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Old 12-17-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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A massacre happened 85 years ago in which firearms were not used. How many massacres have happened in the last 85 years where they WERE used? How many massacres have happened in the last 85 years where dynamite was used?
If you want to go down that road.....how many people were killed with AUTOMOBILES Under the controll and operation of DRUNK DRIVERS.....using a deadly weapon in a lethal way.....while incapacitated?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:25 PM
 
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They do. Look up the Happy Land social club. See how easy it was for some psycho to kill 90 people in NY with a can of gasoline and a match.

Psychotic assh**es will find ways to be psychotic assh**es, regardless of what is legal to buy. Focusing on what tool they used is not the issue.

Blaming guns for a mass murder is like blaming the internet for hate speech.
That happened 22 years ago. Anything more recent or frequent?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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May I suggest this link to you so you can see what probably caused all those dozens and dozens of gun massacres in the last 40 to 50 years? Well I will do it anyway.


The TRUE SOURCE of RANDOM & MASS SHOOTINGS and VIOLENCE - YouTube
My husband and I discussed this at length tonight. I'm thisclose to agreeing with you on this point. I'll give you all a minute to pick that jaw up off the floor.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:28 PM
 
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If you want to go down that road.....how many people were killed with AUTOMOBILES Under the controll and operation of DRUNK DRIVERS.....using a deadly weapon in a lethal way.....while incapacitated?
I have no issue with drunk driving laws. So what's your point?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:31 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Your point? He used thousands of pounds of dynamite. Try and buy thousands of pounds of dynamite today without Homeland Security knocking on your door. If dynamite was regulated then as it is now...
knocking ???? funny. He would never hear Homeland security coming, he would go to sleep one night and wake up in a "Black site".
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Since when do the numbers of the dead count?

Is the death of one child any less than the deaths of 20 children?

This post is very sick at it's core. And very dangerous- all it does is establish a benchmark for the next gun nut with a bag full of 30 round clips who wants to break the record. Tell me, XXX; when, if ever, to you grieve? Does it take over 20 children to bring a tear to your eye, or is that not enough for you? Would 30 do it? Or 50?

What's the number for your compassion to finally kick into gear?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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That happened 22 years ago. Anything more recent or frequent?
To what end? Are you suggesting that gasoline is no longer flammable, or that psychopathic assh**es have forgotten that a match will ignite it?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:36 PM
 
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To what end? Are you suggesting that gasoline is no longer flammable, or that psychopathic assh**es have forgotten that a match will ignite it?
I'm asking why people don't use such easily accessible weapons such as gas and flame.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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What the liberals don't understand-
Banning guns won't save society from the multitude of crazies out there who hear voices telling them to kill or blow up someone or something.
True progressives should demand mental health reform, not gun law reform.
They also won't save society from the angry drunks who are mad over their divorce, the sober people with deep feelings of injustice or being wronged by a fellow worker, the impulsive, or the idiots who think filling the air with lead is big fun.

They won't do a thing to stop the curious children who want to know how a gun works while mom and dad are out of the house.

Or the guy who just lost the fistfight he started over nothing much, but now he feels the need to display his prowess.

None of the above meet any of the definitions of mental disorder. Blaming those with mental problems is way too easy.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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I'm asking why people don't use such easily accessible weapons such as gas and flame.
And I pointed out that they do, using the most memorable example I could recall. But ok....

Lake Station man admits to arson murders in Miller - Post-Tribune

5 Killed Overnight In Arson-Homicide At Denver Bar « CBS Denver


The point is that, while firearms are efficient weapons, and probably the preferred weapon of psychotic assh**es, taking them away from the entire citizenry will not cause those psychotic assh**es to suddenly not be psychotic assh**es. At most, that will make the psychotic assh**es employ some other method to demonstrate their psychotic assh**ishness. And as has been shown, those other methods can be just as deadly, if not quite as easy.
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