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Old 12-17-2012, 08:46 PM
 
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So what's roysoldboy's view on the pro-lifers owning a gun to shoot the burglar who crawls through the window? Does he get plugged with the Glock or told his life is valuable and a hug?

'Cause you can't have it both ways. Either all life is equal or it's not.
Innocent Life. Nothing is more innocent or more vulnerable than a fetus.
It has never done anything to earn a death sentence.
It is only guilty of being invisible and unable to cry out when anyone can hear.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: California
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Innocent Life. Nothing is more innocent or more vulnerable than a fetus.
It has never done anything to earn a death sentence.
It is only guilty of being invisible and unable to cry out when anyone can hear.
Except maybe threaten the life and health and future of the pregnant woman who didn't want to be pregnant in the first place. Spare the "she should have kept her legs closed" faux arguement, I'm over it.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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Because they are not babies. They don't count. The courts said so.

I see plenty logic in this illogical country.
You want an abortion, it's not a baby.
You want government support when pregnant then it's a baby.
Says the one who doesn't have to make the choice....
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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Except maybe threaten the life and health and future of the pregnant woman who didn't want to be pregnant in the first place.
It can't make a threat. It can't do anything but try to live and grow.
It is a complete victim of circumstances beyond it's control.
Innocent of any and all wrongdoing.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: California
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It can't make a threat. It can't do anything but try to live and grow.
It is a complete victim of circumstances beyond it's control.
Innocent of any and all wrongdoing.
Sure it can, don't be lame. Pregnancy is hard on a body.

And the woman who doesn't want to be pregnant is just as innocent. She just wants to live her life as an individual person.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:54 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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most abortions are done before the 7 week point, at which there are no limbs to be ripped apart without pain killer, BTW a fetus does not feel pain until past the 20 week point.
that a half true Unborn babies can feel pain during abortion a lot of abortion occure after the 20 week.

Abortion is difficult and painful for the unborn child. Surgeon Robert P. N. Shearin states that: [1]
As early as eight to ten weeks after conception, and definitely by thirteen-and-a-half weeks, the unborn experiences organic pain…. First, the unborn child's mouth, at eight weeks, then her hands at ten weeks, then her face, arms, and legs at eleven weeks become sensitive to touch. By thirteen-and-a-half weeks, she responds to pain at all levels of her nervous system in an integrated response which cannot be termed a mere reflex. She can now experience pain


Some medical doctors believe that the ability to feel pain begain as early as 8 weeks.....

http://www.abortionfacts.com/facts/13
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:58 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Except maybe threaten the life and health and future of the pregnant woman who didn't want to be pregnant in the first place. Spare the "she should have kept her legs closed" faux arguement, I'm over it.
Women aren't going to close theirs leg certainly not in the Great State of California , but this is 2012 and Women should master the secret art of " Birth Control " for all involved don't you think....?....
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:59 PM
 
Location: California
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that a half true Unborn babies can feel pain during abortion a lot of abortion occure after the 20 week.

Abortion is difficult and painful for the unborn child. Surgeon Robert P. N. Shearin states that: [1]
As early as eight to ten weeks after conception, and definitely by thirteen-and-a-half weeks, the unborn experiences organic pain…. First, the unborn child's mouth, at eight weeks, then her hands at ten weeks, then her face, arms, and legs at eleven weeks become sensitive to touch. By thirteen-and-a-half weeks, she responds to pain at all levels of her nervous system in an integrated response which cannot be termed a mere reflex. She can now experience pain


Some medical doctors believe that the ability to feel pain begain as early as 8 weeks.....

Fact #13: The 8 week+ unborn baby feels real physical pain during an abortion.
Key words in that are "Some medical doctors believe...". I haven't read or heard anything to make ME believe that however. Not that it matters anyway.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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The media and all the anti-gunners keep saying that those kids the other day deserved a chance and I think that those aborted kids did, too.
No kids were aborted....what are talking about?????
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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Women aren't going to close theirs leg certainly not in the Great State of California , but this is 2012 and Women should master the secret art of " Birth Control " for all involved don't you think....?....
???

The secret art of birth control??? What the ...???


"for all involved" ?? the pregnant woman is the ONLY one involved, it's really no one else's business.
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