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Old 12-18-2012, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Thank you.

Some people have political agendas but they never think about the consequences. We don't even have the resources to support 1/2 million foster kids, let alone 18 million.

Get this straight prolifers, unwanted pregnancies are not gonna stop just because abortion is banned. NOT HAPPENING. Get a reality check and do the math, who is gonna support 18 million unwanted babies?

The story doesn't end when the child is born, this is reality, not a fairy tale or a movie.
The bigger question should be with all the technology and drugs we have today why are their so many abortions happening ?
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:25 AM
 
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The bigger question should be with all the technology and drugs we have today why are their so many abortions happening ?
You have a religious idiot right who does not want to teach teens how you get pregnant and how to use birth control and only teach abstinance and you ask that question. LOL There are some 7 billion people on the planet I think people are not going to stop Fing any time soon. LOL
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:38 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Innocent Life. Nothing is more innocent or more vulnerable than a fetus.
It has never done anything to earn a death sentence.
It is only guilty of being invisible and unable to cry out when anyone can hear.
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Want to talk about a real tragedy? 463,000 children live in foster care. Less than 3% of those kids go to college, and 50% are HOMELESS when they age out. My boyfriend lived on the streets with his best friend who has cerebral palsy when they both aged out of the system. His best friend was relinquished at birth because of his disability (which, even now after years of declining condition because he has little to no support in getting access to services, is mild enough to let him live independently) and he NEVER FOUND a permanent home. This was after years of sexual, physical, and emotional abuse.

How is a system that is already broken going to handle an influx of children each year? How many of you pro-lifers have saved a child lately? And I don't mean a fetus. I mean the 16 year old at the group home who was impregnated by her last foster father, or the 10 year old kid with cerebral palsy or the 13 year old who walked in on his father's dead body after he ODed. These kids need our help, and we ALL are failing them. And then the right wing who clamors for them to be born looks down on them when they end up on government assistance for the rest of their lives because they have absolutely no sense of normalcy, stability, or safety and don't know how to live like those of us who grew up with families. Even the most dysfunctional of non-abusive families is more nurturing than a group home when it's kill or be killed.
Generally, Pro-lifers only care about the unborn fetus. Once it is outside the mother's womb - that baby had better have been born into a self-sufficient family.

Otherwise, the religious right will wash their hands of that baby so fast it will make your head spin.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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you should be able to see the difference between a fetus and a class room full of 6 year olds. that tragedy has nothing to do with abortion nor should it be used as a round about way to make point of your feeling about a woman's right to choice.
I think if the argument about gun violence is really about deaths, then abortion is a legitimate topic. More Americans die each year from abortion than from any other cause. It is a strictly voluntary reason in almost all cases.

The right to abort is protected by law, as is the right to own guns. But what is so sad and disappointing is that so much of the US, especially Democrats, is completely uninterested in reducing the number of abortions in the US.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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I think if the argument about gun violence is really about deaths, then abortion is a legitimate topic. More Americans die each year from abortion than from any other cause. It is a strictly voluntary reason in almost all cases.

The right to abort is protected by law, as is the right to own guns. But what is so sad and disappointing is that so much of the US, especially Democrats, is completely uninterested in reducing the number of abortions in the US.
"americans" are not dying from abortions, women are terminating their unwanted pregnancies. they are fetus, potential life, not born americans.

it is untrue democrats don't want to reduce the number of abortions. the democrats by in large are the ones that support easier access to birth control and sex ed in schools. if the republicans would get on board with that you would see a decline in abortions.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You have a religious idiot right who does not want to teach teens how you get pregnant and how to use birth control and only teach abstinance and you ask that question. LOL There are some 7 billion people on the planet I think people are not going to stop Fing any time soon. LOL
So all US abortions are from kids from religious families that forbid them to use birth control ?
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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Dear Ho, My, you are one brainwashed person with your strict definition of a fetus being "potential life" and such goofy idea's. By your definition a big ole hunk of Cancer would be "potential life". Like it or not, it is a human life and if things work out and some fool doesn't kill it, it will be born and grow to be an adult.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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I think if the argument about gun violence is really about deaths, then abortion is a legitimate topic. More Americans die each year from abortion than from any other cause. It is a strictly voluntary reason in almost all cases.

The right to abort is protected by law, as is the right to own guns. But what is so sad and disappointing is that so much of the US, especially Democrats, is completely uninterested in reducing the number of abortions in the US.
Democrats are uninterested in reducing the numbers of abortions???

Where do you get that crap?


It's Republican who want to cut funding to Planned Parenthood which provides BC ! It also provides health care for women and very few abortions but REPUBLICANS want to cut funding so MORE women have LESS acess to BC.....

Republicans don't want over the counter birth control.

It's Republicans who think preaching abstinence works when it clearly doesn't.




Where HAVE you been????
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Generally, Pro-lifers only care about the unborn fetus. Once it is outside the mother's womb - that baby had better have been born into a self-sufficient family.

Otherwise, the religious right will wash their hands of that baby so fast it will make your head spin.
As with ANY social issue, the ones advocating the change and pushing the change wash their hands of it once they get their change done.

That is nothing new.
Example: We have millions of mentally ill people wandering the streets of our cities.
The advocates stood up for them decades ago demanding their release because they "had rights".
The asylums were closed and the advocates patted themselves on the back for a job well done and went on about their lives and let the mentally ill now fend for themselves.

Fighting for social change and then walking away once you've accomplished your specific goal of getting the law changed is nothing new nor is it specific to abortion.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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Dear Ho, My, you are one brainwashed person with your strict definition of a fetus being "potential life" and such goofy idea's. By your definition a big ole hunk of Cancer would be "potential life". Like it or not, it is a human life and if things work out and some fool doesn't kill it, it will be born and grow to be an adult.
you need to be educated if you think a fetus is not potential life, take it out of the womb and it will no longer live. I never said it wasn't a human life, however it can not live a life until it is born. women are not stupid, we know what abortion is.
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