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Old 12-19-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The government allows abortion up to a certain point saying the fetus is not "a person".
And if you are unable to tell the difference between the phrases, "is not a person" and "is not life," then you cannot be helped.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:49 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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Less focus on the number of abortions and more focus on the other 4,000,000 conceptions.

How many of them were similarly (if at all) poorly considered?
How many of them will come into homes without the resources or even love needed to raise them?
I'll bet no less than 25% and probably even 50% of those 4million.

How about focusing all that anti abortion outrage somewhere that it might do some good?
Education and contraception. It really isn't that hard.

Until then? Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Less focus on the number of abortions and more focus on the other 4,000,000 conceptions.

How many of them were similarly (if at all) poorly considered?
How many of them will come into homes without the resources or even love needed to raise them?
I'll bet no less than 25% and probably even 50% of those 4million.

How about focusing all that anti abortion outrage somewhere that it might do some good?
Education and contraception. It really isn't that hard.

Until then? Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free
I agree with you up until your last word. No, not FREE because nothing is free.
You want to have sex then you pay for the consequences yourself, whether it be to have a child or abortion.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:06 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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I agree with you up until your last word. No, not FREE because nothing is free.
Especially the FREE.

Those able to pay will be happy to do so.
The people who need the service the most are usually the ones least able to afford it.

The lack of a few hundred in facility fees shouldn't be the deciding factor...
and especially as it is the main hindrance in achieving prompt.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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Why can't you Republicans tell the difference between fertilized eggs and little children?
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Especially the FREE.

Those able to pay will be happy to do so.
The people who need the service the most are usually the ones least able to afford it.

The lack of a few hundred in facility fees shouldn't be the deciding factor...
and especially as it is the main hindrance in achieving prompt.
Well Fed money can't be used for abortions today so people are able to afford them, aren't they ?
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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Well Fed money can't be used for abortions today so people are able to afford them, aren't they ?
I don't care where the money comes from.

But anyone who doesn't have private insurance (which should be required in all states to provide
contraception and abortion services) and can't come up with a few hundred somehow is probably
on medicaid which also should be required in all states to provide contraception and abortion services.
Even if some of the people in a state don't like it.

If the right to make the choice can not be effected...
it isn't much of a choice. Is it?
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: NC
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What a fuss the pro "choice" crowd makes if someone even questions whether abortions should be banned or not.
Why is the killing of one million less significant than the killing of twenty children. This is a sick, sick society if we can't even see the illogic in that.
I don't know of anyone who says take all the guns away, but as far as abortion is concerned it is not an absolute right. If states or the federal government want to they can and have placed restrictions on abortion like a ban on certain late term abortions. States and the feds also can place restrictions certain types of guns e.g. sawed off shotguns, and institute requirements on who is allowed to buy guns and under what conditions.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What a fuss the pro "choice" crowd makes if someone even questions whether abortions should be banned or not.
Why is the killing of one million less significant than the killing of twenty children. This is a sick, sick society if we can't even see the illogic in that.
So just what is it you want to see happen? A law requiring all pregnant women to give birth and an additional requirement that they be put on 24 an hour electronic monitoring to make sure that happens?
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Really? Has President Obama read the name of every murdered child on television?
So just what is it you want to see happen? A law requiring all pregnant women to give birth and an additional requirement that they be put on 24 an hour electronic monitoring to make sure that happens?
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