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Some people have been getting tired of repeating the same suggestions to those demanding "gun control", onl,y to have the come back in a few months (or weeks) to repeat the same demands, as though their previous posts had never been debunked.
There have been answers to the questions, for years. That never stops them from bringing up the same old "solutions" time after time, year after year, apparently without ever reading (or perhaps while carefully ignoring) the years of results of the "solutions" that have already been tried. These people keep proposing them all over again as though there were something new about them.
The same long-debunked-by-actual-experience "solutions" these people keep proposing, have been tried time and again. And they have never done anything to reduce the mass shootings, often at schools.
As many witnesses on TV have pointed out, the mass shootings keep happening, and are even increasing. And that's AFTER years of gun restrictions and gun bans have been enacted. Years of waiting periods, "assault weapon" bans, "gun free zones", "red flag laws", you name it... and yet as we can see in the news, the number of people (young and old) getting killed keeps mounting without letup.
As a woman in Nashville said immediately after the latest shooting there, why do these mass murders keep happening "after all the things we have done to stop them"?
The answer is tragically simple: We are doing the wrong things.
What could be a more obvious indicator that what we are "doing about it", has been the wrong thing from the start? The mass shootings, often of the most innocent among us, have kept happening and have even been increasing. When will we finally put two and two together and realize that something different is needed? How many more 9-year-old have to die before we figure out that banning guns, restricting all gun owners (including the 99.999% who have never shot anybody and never will), and making law after law to try to keep "certain people" from getting guns, will all be laughingly ignored by the people who keep causing these massacres?
What "new thing" we must try, is a difficult question, and I don't pretend to know what it is.
Might have something to do with stopping the constant din of assurances to everyone with a temper, that they are "victims" of made-up "racism" or "systemic white supremacy" or any of the other excuses people use to gin up hatred. Even most of the people these assurances are aimed at, usually don't pick up a gun and start shooting... but a few do.
Or perhaps we should stop glorifying the murderers with weeks of analyses of "why they did it" or why they feel so "oppressed" or etc. Plainly many of them aren't afraid of dying by police response - just the knowledge that weeks of lurid pages of headlines will be coming long after they're killed by cops, is plainly enough to get the murderers to attack schools, offices, etc.
One thing that is obvious to everyone by now, is that "what we have already done" was the wrong thing(s). The murders have continued unabated.
Joe Biden made a speech shortly after the latest mass murder in Nashville. And his only apparent response, was that he wants Congress to pass his "assault weapons" ban.
Sigh.
He has obviously learned nothing, nothing from the decades of mass murders, and the gun bans we have passed, restrictions, etc. Can he be so completely blank that he doesn't even notice that these things have all been tried and found useless?
How many more school children, mall shoppers, office workers, etc. have to die before our lawmakers finally concede that making laws HAS NOT WORKED???
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Has there ever been a time in living memory in the U.S., where the rate of mass shootings (especially school shootings) was significantly lower than it is now?
If so, what were the conditions? What laws were there, how were such murderers treated, what did police do, what restrictions were in place?
Has there ever been a time in living memory in the U.S., where the rate of mass shootings (especially school shootings) was significantly lower than it is now?
If so, what were the conditions? What laws were there, how were such murderers treated, what did police do, what restrictions were in place?
Might be worth looking into?
I'll add ... what did the family structure look like?
WELL, one is assuming that they want their goal is to reduce school shootings in their responses.........and I think a lot of us don't see that as their goal anymore.
Gun control is absolutely useless as long as we have open borders. And, remember, if gun control was to finally get passed, it will be only the cops that have the guns, and for some of you, do you really want that? This is how Nazi Germany started.
“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”
- Ronald Reagan
Everything they touch turns to $***.... So if they have been doing something about it, that's probably why the problem has been getting worse and worse. History has shown, the last thing anyone needs is the government trying to solve a real problem.
The military is better qualified for dealing with real problems, and they get the job done, but as far as government goes, that's as good as it gets. And I don't think parents want to drop their children off at practical military compounds guarded by armed soldiers.
Perhaps the k-12 system is such a dismal failure at this point that it needs to be scrapped and the responsibility of educating children needs to be turned over to the private sector, where customers tend to get better results and treatment. I find people tend to have a much more serious attitude about their responsibilities and place in this world than "government workers", especially unionized ones.
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WELL, one is assuming that they want their goal is to reduce school shootings in their responses.........and I think a lot of us don't see that as their goal anymore.
Biden immediately politicized this tragedy and used it as an excuse to push the radical left's gun grabbing agenda. And the shooter was a rabid leftist/socialist. They were both on the same team politically, marching in lockstep with one another, until this event occurred. Details like this should be considered.
I think we should look at the countries like Australia that don’t have mass shootings to see what worked for them. Also people owning guns are not going to save us if the military turns against their own citizens.
I think we should look at the countries like Australia that don’t have mass shootings to see what worked for them. Also people owning guns are not going to save us if the military turns against their own citizens.
As to the latter, if the politicians go to war against the populace, the populace may not win, but the politicians are going to find out just how expensive it will be.
Further, if the military turns against its own citizens......doesn't that strike you as WRONG? Are you saying if they do.....we should just roll over and accept it? As said, none of us get out of life alive and better to die on your feet than live on your knees as a slave. Either way, you will die in the end.....anyhow.
As far as Australia and New Zealand, yes, I think we should look at them......and see how they treated their people when their leaders decided to retroactively take the guns that they bought legally, how they treated their people during the pandemic.
Gun control is absolutely useless as long as we have open borders. And, remember, if gun control was to finally get passed, it will be only the cops that have the guns, and for some of you, do you really want that? This is how Nazi Germany started.
Can you imagine the logistics of trying to confiscate Every gun from law abiding citizens?
There are so many illegal guns in criminal hands already.
That's a Law we have Right Now!
And how is that working out? Are they even trying to get those illegal guns?
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Culture of divisiveness, victimhood not helping.
This so much. I can't see it going away though. It makes too much money.
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