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To the anti gunners responding to this thread , and yes you are anti gunners because who you are supporting politicians to push legislation who will NEVER STOP at wanting restrict more and more and as many kinds of guns as they can. Think Sarah Brady or Feinstein will close up shop if they get one legislation passed? In time they will go after handguns, then ammo, then scopes, then licenses, then heavy fees.....to where it is next to impossible to buy or own a gun. That is truth...
Let me ask you this. Heavily armed drug runners cross our border and terrorize citizens and the government won't or can't do anything to stop it or protect people. These people must rely on their own defense because they can't on the police.
Would you have these ranchers fight back with muskets against criminal armed with military weapons? Where is Obama to protect them? And no most drug runners weapons ARE NOT coming from America that is a proven lie.
No argument you can ever invent will counter the image of 20 tiny coffins being lowered into the ground. You're going to lose this legal battle. Better get used to the idea.
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Originally Posted by lionking
I have little doubt in my mind that this last shooting was the tipping point. Gun control was left silent during the last election and it seemed we had things on our side going our way overall.
Firearm ownership was up, politicians were silent about legislation believing it was detriment to their career. That changed Friday. There will be open calls for bans, the media and the anti gun people are going to use any means they can truthful or not to push for it. Obama if you read between the lines is going to push for it now " we must put politics aside and stop this from happening anymore" is a way he put it.
The anti gun people and media are going to slander us, they are going to use propaganda to the mainstream people who generally support gun ownership but not completely.
We must fight back smartly and with the right choices of words. They are going to attempt to make us look like we care more about guns than children. They are going to portray us as having no heart. They are going to call us "gun nuts". They are going to portray us as being paranoid against government when we mention the 2nd amendment is fundamentally for fighting against a tyrannical government.
The on fence voters and people can be easily swayed by this slander and we must use calm logic while counteracting the claims we are cold hearted. We must show that we care about the future and lives of people and children also. We must expose their lies when they use one.
Sound bites like " guns don't kill people, people do" won't go over well to the on the fence voter. Claiming you need your guns to fight a potential tyrannical government either. What may make them think though is while police do the best they can they can't always protect you, as the saying goes when seconds count the cops are minutes away.
Telling people a AR-15 isn't a assault rifle because it isn't selective fire won't help our argument either, on the fence voters really don't care about technical specifics. But when the anti's claim no upstanding citizen would use one other than to kill we must show the general populace how such firearms are used in competition and hunting events.
In 1992 we didn't have the internet like we do now. Clinton, the politicians and the media along with Hollywood had pretty much free reign to spew their lies and propaganda. At least this time we have more of a voice, more channels to counteract the propaganda, I hope we use it wisely.
No argument you can ever invent will counter the image of 20 tiny coffins being lowered into the ground. You're going to lose this legal battle. Better get used to the idea.
Back up. You're skipping a whole step. Not that I would expect much better.
To the anti gunners responding to this thread , and yes you are anti gunners because who you are supporting politicians to push legislation who will NEVER STOP at wanting restrict more and more and as many kinds of guns as they can. Think Sarah Brady or Feinstein will close up shop if they get one legislation passed? In time they will go after handguns, then ammo, then scopes, then licenses, then heavy fees.....to where it is next to impossible to buy or own a gun. That is truth...
Let me ask you this. Heavily armed drug runners cross our border and terrorize citizens and the government won't or can't do anything to stop it or protect people. These people must rely on their own defense because they can't on the police.
Would you have these ranchers fight back with muskets against criminal armed with military weapons? Where is Obama to protect them? And no most drug runners weapons ARE NOT coming from America that is a proven lie.
A.) Most drug runners aren't interested in altercations. They want to remain unseen so I don't see much terrorizing going on.
B.) Legalize several drugs and watch what happens to drug trafficers.
C.) The border patrol has been getting better and better every year.
No argument you can ever invent will counter the image of 20 tiny coffins being lowered into the ground. You're going to lose this legal battle. Better get used to the idea.
After 9/11 no argument could counter the images of the twin towers and the pentagon, and because so we dashed into legislation and responses that later we re-thought what we supported initially.
After 9/11 no argument could counter the images of the twin towers and the pentagon, and because so we dashed into legislation and responses that later we re-thought what we supported initially.
Have you tried to sneak a box cutter onto a plane lately?
Why no question as to why someone decides to pick up a gun and go on a murder spree? If you do not go to the root of the problem you will do nothing to solve the real problem.
A study published by Harvard showing no correlation between gun ownership and suicide/murder rates in various nations. Culture and mental health issue couple with social issues do.
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