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Old 12-18-2012, 10:24 AM
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Can you please cite a specific source where it documents that the United States was less violent in the late 19th or early 20th century than now?

Or are you just making assertions without any factual information to support them, which seems to be very much in vogue with conservatives these days?
I gave a source in my previous post, though the OP should have done so instead of me doing his work for him.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:26 AM
 
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I gave a source in my previous post, though the OP should have done so instead of me doing his work for him.
The OP is a right winger. You expect him to do the home work?
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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Because all of the wealthy people left for Mc Crapholes in the suburbs, leaving the cities abandoned to rot, therefore letting crime go uncontrolled.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Violence in America has nothing to do about guns, but everything to do with culture. In spite of gun ownership being much more widespread in turn of the century America, gun violence was less common, per capita. Why? The culture of liberalism has created more violence by embracing drugs, violent media, single parent families, diminishing religion, banning parental discipline, and supporting a "women's movement" which has driven mothers from the home into the workplace.

Want to cut violence? Stop promoting liberal policy which has created a violent, immoral, and self centered culture.
So why have crime rates been steadily declining nationwide in recent years?

And why is ultra-liberal Vermont safer than conservative Alabama?
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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Easy...they didn't have the media.
For example,if we didn't have tv or internet,I doubt we would have heard about the movie theater shooting the same day?

In other words,it occured at the same rate,but it was"in your face".
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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Violence in America has nothing to do about guns, but everything to do with culture. In spite of gun ownership being much more widespread in turn of the century America, gun violence was less common, per capita. Why? The culture of liberalism has created more violence by embracing drugs, violent media, single parent families, diminishing religion, banning parental discipline, and supporting a "women's movement" which has driven mothers from the home into the workplace.

Want to cut violence? Stop promoting liberal policy which has created a violent, immoral, and self centered culture.
Except that in 1900 gun deaths were actually more common. Plus, there were these things called "lynchings" which ran rampant in the South and there were thousands that went unreported. Between 1882 (when reliable statistics were first collected) and 1968 (when the classic forms of lynching had disappeared), 4,743 persons died of lynching, 3,446 of them black men and women.
Murder rates have declined over the years, not the other way around.
In 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990 and 2000 there were more murders per capita than in 2010.

Even school massacres happened back then. The Bath Schoolhouse Massacre (called a disaster, but it was terrorism) resulted in the death of 38 children and 6 adults and that was back in 1927.


The MORONS who blame violence on "Liberalism" are beyond brainwashed. Violent crime and murder has decreased SIGNIFICANTLY since the 19th century and before. READ A FREAKING HISTORY BOOK before making baseless claims.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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Violence in America has nothing to do about guns, but everything to do with culture. In spite of gun ownership being much more widespread in turn of the century America, gun violence was less common, per capita. Why? The culture of liberalism has created more violence by embracing drugs, violent media, single parent families, diminishing religion, banning parental discipline, and supporting a "women's movement" which has driven mothers from the home into the workplace.

Want to cut violence? Stop promoting liberal policy which has created a violent, immoral, and self centered culture.
why was 1900 America less violent?


Maybe Americans were all worn out from killing 650,000 of themselves in the "non-violent" Civil War....????
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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Liberals- why was 1900 America less violent?
No drug laws.

America's rise and fall in violent crimes tracks pretty consistently with the rise and fall of prohibition and laws criminalizing drug use.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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Violence in America has nothing to do about guns, but everything to do with culture. In spite of gun ownership being much more widespread in turn of the century America, gun violence was less common, per capita. Why? The culture of liberalism has created more violence by embracing drugs, violent media, single parent families, diminishing religion, banning parental discipline, and supporting a "women's movement" which has driven mothers from the home into the workplace.

Want to cut violence? Stop promoting liberal policy which has created a violent, immoral, and self centered culture.
Huh?

People getting lynched, wives routinely beaten by their husbands, children beaten and forced to work all hours?

What kind of comic book world do people live in?
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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Based on the histories of the early 1900's America was a far more violent place the early 2100's. Most of this violence was concealed in the home or confined to Hell's Kitchen or other immigrant enclaves. Or it was condoned when the KKK killed the proper people like blacks, Jews or other despised minorities.

I believe it is the influence of Liberalism, including Equal Justice and Opportunity for all, that has reduced violence from so commonplace that it is not noted to the current situation where the murder of one person let alone a massacre in a school, is noticed and reported.
Thank you.
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