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Originally Posted by tinman01
Actually I would have no problem with Capital punishment for anyone who uses a gun to commit a crime.
Armed robbery, rape, car jacking etc.
I agree, but first we need to streamline the appeals process.
When I was a kid it seems you actually needed a reason to appeal a verdict, i.e. procedural error, prosecutorial misconduct, etc. Now it seems you can appeal for no other reason than you don't like the verdict.
I think we need a system where when there's no doubt of guilt and the trial was conducted according to law, you take the needle, no more 20 year stays on death row.
I think we need a system where when there's no doubt of guilt and the trial was conducted according to law, you take the needle, no more 20 year stays on death row.
I used to be a firm believer in the death penalty right up until the point where all these people started getting released after DNA evidence was able to prove it wasn't them. I have no problem putting someone to death that has been rightfully found guilty but when you have numerous people on death row that are innocent of the crime they were convicted of you need to take a very long look at whether we should be executing people.
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I used to be a firm believer in the death penalty right up until the point where all these people started getting released after DNA evidence was able to prove it wasn't them. I have no problem putting someone to death that has been rightfully found guilty but when you have numerous people on death row that are innocent of the crime they were convicted of you need to take a very long look at whether we should be executing people.
By the same token it would seem modern methods give a much higher probabllity of a correct verdict.
I agree with what you're saying but in cases where there's something like a video leaving no doubt of guilt, I have no sympathy.
We just had a murder here in NC where 4 young adults killed a 19 year old college student for sport, a sandwich, and $10. Occurences like this make me wish we'd return to public hangings.
I was just wondering how you folks who own handguns feel about stricter penalties for illegal handguns since I think we can all agree the majority of gun murders in the country are done with illegal weapons.
I was thinking 20 years in prison the first offense W/O the possibility of parole and life in prison the 2nd offense. To me, even gangbangers would not want to take that hit.
This is just for possession of an illegal handgun.
I'm assuming your knee jerk reaction is to the CT shooting. How would penalties against illegal guns have helped with that exactly?
And if "strict penalties" work, we must have a handle on the drug problem in this country, right?
Illegal is illegal. Murder is illegal, with severe penalties, and that doesn't seem to stop people, why would changing the penalties on having illegal guns have any bearing on this?
Then the only ones with guns will be criminals. Yea, that's the ticket.
I was just wondering how you folks who own handguns feel about stricter penalties for illegal handguns since I think we can all agree the majority of gun murders in the country are done with illegal weapons.
I was thinking 20 years in prison the first offense W/O the possibility of parole and life in prison the 2nd offense. To me, even gangbangers would not want to take that hit.
This is just for possession of an illegal handgun.
Name one handgun that is illegal to own?
As the Constitution says, "shall not be infringed upon".
The very fact that any weapon is illegal, is infringement on my individual rights as a citizen of the USA, according to the rights given me as a sovereign citizen of these United States, within the chains on the centralized government, called the US Constitution. The most unique document ever produced for a nation to function freely and with individual liberty.
Pretty much no. I wish I didn't have to even think about it to be honest.
This is the problem, there are way to many people who "don't know" who are making decisions.
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