A quote from Thomas Jefferson... (Congress, polls, conspiracy, treason)

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by arctichomesteader

We're not a democracy, done intentionally by the founders to prevent the tyranny of the majority.

So, you're claiming that it is the minority on your side.

[arctichomesteader]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Yes. We are.

Some republics are democracies. Some are not.

Ours is a democracy.

We are not a democracy. We're a rather undemocratic republic. Until 1913, people couldn't even vote for their senator. We don't actually vote for our president. The process for amending the Constitution is not too democratic either. Our founders intended to make us a free country, not a democracy. Democracy always devolves into mob rule. No rights exist in a true democracy. The majority can vote them away.

[arctichomesteader]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

So, you're claiming that it is the minority on your side.

No, that is just how our founders referred to mob rule.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by arctichomesteader

No, that is just how our founders referred to mob rule.

But, if what you say is true, then the converse holds true, that we have a minority that supports what the majority detests. So, thanks to the minority...

Originally Posted by arctichomesteader

We are not a democracy. We're a rather undemocratic republic. Until 1913, people couldn't even vote for their senator.

Good point. In 1913, women didn't count as people anyway. Need I go back further to the good old days where the government defined who can be "people"?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by arctichomesteader

We are not a democracy.

Actually, yes. We are. Democracy comes in many forms. Direct. Representative. Constitutional. Parliamentary... its a very long list.

We are one of them.

[Nomad58]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

So, you're claiming that it is the minority on your side.

Right, right. We would never want the tyranny of the majority. Much better to have the tyranny of the idiot redneck minority.

[arctichomesteader]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Actually, yes. We are. Democracy comes in many forms. Direct. Representative. Constitutional. Parliamentary... its a very long list.

We are one of them.

"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself." -John Adams

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" -Ben Franklin

[Mashed Potatoes]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Same response.

For someone who claims to be a historian, you are ignorant as to the differences of a Constitutional republic (which we are) vs a democracy (which we are not)

[Nomad58]

Originally Posted by Hot_Handz

Oh yea...Democracy...

that thing that will eventually cancel out everything you love as well...

Nope, just everything YOU love.

[Nomad58]

Originally Posted by Mashed Potatoes

Good thing we dont live in a democracy, it's called a Constitutional Republic.

I'll give up my AR's when I decide to, not when a bunch of uninformed jackasses think I should.

You're not very good at this are you?

The people tell their elected reps what to do, and then if we put enough fear into them, they actually do it.

This is a tipping point, Gomer.

We're coming for your AK, so better learn how to read or some other hobby.