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Old 12-20-2012, 07:31 AM
 
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So why do righties ***** and moan about the Obama administration redistributing their money to the poor.
can you prove it goes the the poor?
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:35 AM
 
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With all of the government that's in existence - 15% a high number to just be giving to other citizens.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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When you can logically explain to me how people on food stamps can make trips to Hawaii I'll stop complaining.
They book the trips on their iphones.
But no leftie will ever believe that.

15% is 14% too much.
Until you see the fraud and waste on a daily basis, you can keep yer traps shut.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:54 AM
 
Location: USA
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They book the trips on their iphones.
But no leftie will ever believe that.

15% is 14% too much.
Until you see the fraud and waste on a daily basis, you can keep yer traps shut.
I bet 14% goes to administrative costs. Somebody has to hand out the money!
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It isn't the actually amount that bothers me as much as how many are getting help that do not need it, plus 15% on welfare, does that take in disability (which many are getting but do not need) food stamps, medicaid, section 8, and on and on or are you using figures based on just welfare checks? I think I know the answer to that one...
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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So why do righties ***** and moan about the Obama administration redistributing their money to the poor.
It would be helpful if you would provide the source of the information so we could see how much is spent on the various other sectors and how "welfare" is even defined. Are we talking corporate welfares? Social Security? WIC? Housing assistance?
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Because 15% of the taxes i've paid in my entire life is probably tens of thousands of dollars. I could find a use for that.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:31 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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So why do righties ***** and moan about the Obama administration redistributing their money to the poor.
Why? Because I work my behind off so some lazy POS can sit on their couch and play video games all day.

I never paid too much attention to the Welfare issue until I moved a few blocks from the projects in South Boston. On my way to the bus stop every weekday, I was always amazed at the sight of Escalades, Lincoln Navigators, BMWs, Dodge Chargers in surrounding projects.

Meanwhile I couldn't even afford to buy a car because I was and still a member of the working class. But we need to keep working hard so that the moochers of society can keep up with their lifestyle.

Get back to work! They are counting on you!
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So why do righties bytch and moan about the Obama administration redistributing their money to the poor.

FEDERAL

food stamps:
98,000,000,000
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TANF
58,000,000,000
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medicaide:
330,000,000,000
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federal total:
486,000,000,000
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486 billion out of a federal revenue of 2.6 trillion
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that would be about 20%...not 15%
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then add
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medicare:
564 billion
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thats now 1.05 trillion...now its 40% of the revenue
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then add the 850 billion pound gorrilla of SS
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now we are up to 1.9 trillion in spending.....or 73% of the revenue
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thread debunked
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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Is 15% of Federal taxes not a significant amount to complain about? Over $300 billion? Meanwhile, Liberals whine about $20B in annual farm subsidies that support farmers working 80 hours a week in dangerous, dirty conditions.

There is a huge problem with waste and abuse in our entitlement programs. How many laid-off workers are milking unemployment for the full term? How many able-bodied people abuse the loopholes of the welfare and food stamp programs so they can sit at home rather than be productive citizens?

In seven states, welfare pays the equivalent of a $12/hr. job. In 40 states it pays better than minimum wage. Our problem is that these programs enable the lazy to ride on the backs of the productive. Why should someone get a job for $13/hr when they can stay at home, watch TV and play video games and make nearly the same by walking to their mailbox? For Americans who get up and go to work every day and have trouble making ends meet, it's a slap in the face to go to the grocery store and watch someone talking on their iPhone, pull an EBT card from their designer purse to buy their groceries, then pay for beer with cash. Then we see them push their cart of taxpayer-funded food to their 3-year-old luxury SUV. It's the government rewarding poor decisions, so is there any surprise that abuse of entitlements is a huge and growing problem?

There are limits in the system, but it's so broken that people know how to get around the limits and abuse it. My wife worked a CS job where several co-workers purposefully took fewer hours and avoided promotions because it would cut into their benefits.

While there are plenty of genuinely needy people that truly need these programs, they've become a joke. Why should anyone with low ambition be inspired to get a job when welfare pays for their bills, phone, housing and food?
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