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Old 12-21-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: NC
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Clearly, it's her own fault for not being armed. As the NRA so succinctly put it, "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." But without the protective field emanating from a firearm, she of course fell victim. Because the idea of making it hard for the bad guy to arm himself is unamerican.

The bad guy will buy an illegal gun or steal one. He doesn't want a gun that is traceable.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Oh yes.. Make something illegal and it won't be used... Isn't going into a school and shooting fish in a barrel illegal anyway? Hello?? The kill rate won't be changed.. Sorry.. We have been down this road once before and it had no impact.. Remember Columbine? The assault weapon ban was in place at that time.. The only thing that stopped it from being worse is that the bombs they set didn't detonate.. Address the real problem. You are tilting at windmills.
Materials used to create bombs, such as the one in the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995 ARE banned to purchase in significant quantities. And what small quantities people do purchase are closely monitored by the government.

Interesting that in countries where guns are banned gun deaths still happen...however their rates are MUCH lower than the United States, I wonder why that is? Maybe the U.S. just has more crazy people, yeah that's got to be it.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Plenty of people in this world. We really need more mass killings to reduce global warming. Nukes are most likely needed,
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Materials used to create bombs, such as the one in the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995 ARE banned to purchase in significant quantities. And what small quantities people do purchase are closely monitored by the government.

Interesting that in countries where guns are banned gun deaths still happen...however their rates are MUCH lower than the United States, I wonder why that is? Maybe the U.S. just has more crazy people, yeah that's got to be it.
Uh, no.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Uh, no.
You missed the rather obvious sarcasm of my post. Good job.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Shot for overtaking a slow driver. No gun and this woman would still be alive.

Road-rage shooting leaves woman dead - Houston Chronicle
What is your point?

Are you saying that if there were a law that people couldn't own the firearm that was used in this incident, that the deadly assault wouldn't have occurred?

Really? Just how would a law prevent possession of the weapon?

All it would accomplish is ensure that a law abiding citizen like this woman who was murdered, couldn't defend themselves against the criminals who would access weapons on the black market.

MASSIVE THREAD FAIL
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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The bad guy will buy an illegal gun or steal one. He doesn't want a gun that is traceable.
Smart bad guys in other countries have the good sense to avoid carrying guns as much as possible. Poor bad guys in other countries can't afford black-market prices for guns. Both of which contribute to fewer bad guys with guns.

And I suspect the bad guy in this scenario didn't set out to shoot somebody for cutting him off in traffic. He just failed at impulse control. Thanks to the wondrous effects of easy access to firearms, somebody died.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Sometimes Miami sometimes Australia
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And I suspect the bad guy in this scenario didn't set out to shoot somebody for cutting him off in traffic. He just failed at impulse control. Thanks to the wondrous effects of easy access to firearms, somebody died.
So obvious, but people don't want to believe it. "Oh, he would have found another way to kill her!" I cant imagine him mixing a cocktail of dangerous chemicals to throw in her car window while driving, or throwing enough knives until he fatally wounded her.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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You missed the rather obvious sarcasm of my post. Good job.
I sure did.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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And I suspect the bad guy in this scenario didn't set out to shoot somebody for cutting him off in traffic. He just failed at impulse control. Thanks to the wondrous effects of easy access to firearms, somebody died.
You missed the part (my link in earlier comment) where the dead woman's husband also had a gun, followed the suspect to his house and shot up the garage. The suspect then grabbed a rifle and turned the tables on the husband, chasing his car and shooting, resulting in the wife being hit and killed.

Link: http://www.khou.com/news/local/Mothe...184255171.html
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