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Old 12-21-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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What will banning plastic guns that look like a machine gun, or limiting clip sizes do? If some sociopath goes after a classroom of six year old children, it does not take much to kill them, they are tiny and defenseless. So banning some plastic, machine gun knock off, and limiting clip size will not save the children. It's not as if the kids could tackle and subdue the shooter, during the three seconds it takes to pop in a new magazine.

More ridiculousness posed as an argument.

The guy had to shoot his way into the building, then shot 26 people multiple times each. If you don't think some lives would have been saved if he had to carry 10 guns to have the same number of rounds, you're an idiot. People could have escaped, maybe some male teachers could have had a chance to stop him..maybe if he had to have 10 guns to do the same job he wouldn't have hatched the plot in the first place. There are maybes all along the line that gun fetishists simple dismiss as impossibilities..because they love their AR15's, mini14's and what not. There are all kinds of reasons to make it more difficult to get these kinds of weapons and their acessories.

As usual, the gun nuts only possible "what if" scenarios are the ones where there is..no reason to implement any controls on guns. SHOCKING!!!
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:28 AM
 
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..after a bunch of people get killed by a gun.


This is the new mantra of the right wing, that somehow it's inappropriate to talk about gun control now. I can't think of a time when it's more appropriate.


Cue the idiot gun fetishists saying cars are the same as guns.

It is not unreasonable to demand solutions to an issue that occurs which is identified as a growing problem (ie it is showing a significant increase of occurrence outside of random variability)

It is unreasonable and politically motivated to demand solutions to an issue that occurs which is not identified as a growing problem. (it is is not showing a significant increase of occurrence outside of random variability).

It is political because the only time such vigorous pressure is exerted to this issue is when it does occur. That is called taking advantage of an incident to gain support to a given position.

Gun homicides account for less than 1/4 of 1 percent each year. It is not a "problem" with guns, rather each locale has many variables that effect the occurrence of crime that can not be associated to firearms.

So, knowing this and then taking such an occurrence to demand solutions in the manner that is done is to politicize the issue because it is ignorant of the facts and ignorant of the cause. IT is political and emotional and groups who have agendas are manipulating people to their cause.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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Hey -- more people die from drug overdoses -- so how about your same government ban illegal drugs?

Or are you really trying to claim prohibition does work or are you trying to give organized criminals another lucrative product line?
It's illegal to have a bazooka, so there must be a massive underground market for bazookas.


It's apparent that gun nuts want one thing: more guns. That is the answer to everything.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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More ridiculousness posed as an argument.

The guy had to shoot his way into the building, then shot 26 people multiple times each. If you don't think some lives would have been saved if he had to carry 10 guns to have the same number of rounds, you're an idiot. People could have escaped, maybe some male teachers could have had a chance to stop him..maybe if he had to have 10 guns to do the same job he wouldn't have hatched the plot in the first place. There are maybes all along the line that gun fetishists simple dismiss as impossibilities..because they love their AR15's, mini14's and what not. There are all kinds of reasons to make it more difficult to get these kinds of weapons and their acessories.

As usual, the gun nuts only possible "what if" scenarios are the ones where there is..no reason to implement any controls on guns. SHOCKING!!!
That all yo ulefties have is "what if":


Bob Munden -- Cowboy Firepower - YouTube

Just saying....those are SA revolvers....
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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Because we're talking about 20 6 year olds getting killed.
I disagree. You are talking about GUN CONTROL because 20 kids were killed using all sorts of distorted perceptions.

Most posters don't even know what an assault weapon is and they want them banned for example.

Peoples opinions are formed by what they hear, see and read from the media. If the media reported the good news as well as the bad news many would have a more balance opinion.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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"AREN'T getting gunned down 20 per day". The point is that this doesn't happen every day, and that's why the outrage is there.

Really not that difficult to understand, if you're actually trying and not just being a contrarian gun fetishist who refuses to accept any limitations on their ability to have weapons.
Let me see, if I talk about guns, I have gun fetish.

So, if someone talks about pedophiles, does that mean they have fetish with sex with children?

""Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John
Wayne "
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:42 AM
 
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This is something the left and anti gun nuts will never understand....

A criminal does not care about laws.....
They just can't grasp the concept.

If laws stopped crime, why do we have police departments and judges and District Attorneys?
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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Let me see, if I talk about guns, I have gun fetish.

So, if someone talks about pedophiles, does that mean they have fetish with sex with children?

""Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne "
No genius, if you have a militant opposition to gun control laws for semi-automatic weapons with high capacity detachable magazines because you get excited about such weapons, you have a gun fetish.


"It must be tough being as stupid as you are".

dman72, 2012
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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More ridiculousness posed as an argument.

The guy had to shoot his way into the building, then shot 26 people multiple times each. If you don't think some lives would have been saved if he had to carry 10 guns to have the same number of rounds, you're an idiot. People could have escaped, maybe some male teachers could have had a chance to stop him..maybe if he had to have 10 guns to do the same job he wouldn't have hatched the plot in the first place. There are maybes all along the line that gun fetishists simple dismiss as impossibilities..because they love their AR15's, mini14's and what not. There are all kinds of reasons to make it more difficult to get these kinds of weapons and their acessories.

As usual, the gun nuts only possible "what if" scenarios are the ones where there is..no reason to implement any controls on guns. SHOCKING!!!
LOL moronic post of the year award... Have you ever heard of magazines? Even limiting the size of a magazine to 10 rounds, wouldn't stop this.


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Old 12-21-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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More ridiculousness posed as an argument.

The guy had to shoot his way into the building, then shot 26 people multiple times each. If you don't think some lives would have been saved if he had to carry 10 guns to have the same number of rounds, you're an idiot. People could have escaped, maybe some male teachers could have had a chance to stop him..maybe if he had to have 10 guns to do the same job he wouldn't have hatched the plot in the first place. There are maybes all along the line that gun fetishists simple dismiss as impossibilities..because they love their AR15's, mini14's and what not. There are all kinds of reasons to make it more difficult to get these kinds of weapons and their acessories.

As usual, the gun nuts only possible "what if" scenarios are the ones where there is..no reason to implement any controls on guns. SHOCKING!!!

Why is it when leberals don't like what the other side has to say, they start name calling and insulting them?

I think you are a classic anti gun nut. See how it goes?
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