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What I said IS honest debate. It's YOU that doesn't want to debate anything. You are drinking the Kool-Aid and are incapable of a rational thought process as your posts prove.
OK then, let's review a couple of your recent claims:
1. Every school district has bad teachers that can be eliminated in favor of armed guards.
How do you know this? What about schools where every single teacher is desperately needed? Why do you want to eliminate actual classroom staff in favor of rent-a-cops who do nothing to educate children?
2. Anyone who doesn't want armed guards at every school doesn't care about protecting children.
So why don't you advocate stationing armed guards at movie theaters, Chuck-E-Cheeses, zoos, amusement parks, arcades, and anywhere else where children congregate? Don't you think those kids deserve to be safe too?
Congratulations for being such an enthusiastic propagandist for the gun industry and its trade association (the NRA), but I don't think you're not making many converts here. Kool-Aid indeed.
That wasn't the proposal. Why are you on the Left such liars? What would be wrong with having armed security in schools? Like some else said, are children not worth protecting like merchandise? There are armed guards in most jewelry stores!
Two of many issues you right wingers are guaranteed to...
1- Comprehension.
2- Using lies and/or lack of comprehension to call others liars.
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If he had said that initial and ongoing annual license and gun taxation should be used to fund such security, it might have a tad of credibility.
One armed officer friendly in each school does not cut the mustard. Such an officer would have been the first victim one week ago, today assuming he was not in the bathroom with his pants down around his ankles.
Well, a business opportunity would be to sell just one gun per school on tax dollars. A better business would be to sell a couple more. A GREAT business opportunity would be to equip every teacher with one. It is what these idiots are about.
That wasn't the proposal. Why are you on the Left such liars? What would be wrong with having armed security in schools? Like some else said, are children not worth protecting like merchandise? There are armed guards in most jewelry stores!
Proposing that we arm teachers is stupid, but I don't have a problem with armed security in schools--we have a school resource officer at our school after a student attempted a school shooting (they caught him before he was able to do anything) in a small eastern Nebraska school several years ago. His main job is to run the DARE program and talk to kids as part of a community policing program. He's a super nice man, and a great role model for the kids.
The problem is that it isn't nearly enough, and it may not do much good. Columbine High School had an armed officer on campus during the shootings there, and there was armed security on campus during the Virginia Tech shootings. As long as sick kids can gain easy access to weapons that can kill lots of people quickly, we're always going to be DEFENDING ourselves from a growing problem rather than trying to stop the problem to begin with. I don't know all the answers--that's going to take people a whole lot smarter than I am--but it would make sense to me to have a really serious conversation about why ANYONE needs a gun with a high capacity magazine, why people can buy guns at gun shows with no background checks, why we aren't doing more to deal with mental health issues in this country, etc.
Without those types of steps, I can't see how we're going to see any change. How is a school officer going to stop some nut from driving by the play ground and mowing kids down there, or having a shoot out at an ice skating rink or a park. We'd have to put armed officers EVERYWHERE--create a virtual police state--and they still may not be able to stop the problem. We need to deal with the cause of the problem, and not just put a bandaid on it.
What makes you think they would be government employees?
Bring back the Pinkertons!!!!
Direct government employees or government contractors- It's all government spending funded by taxes.
Or maybe the U.S. closes a substantial number of it's 900+ bases ( including nearly 300 in Germany) and bring the troops home and use their training to serve in the schools and other public areas.
Or maybe the U.S. closes a substantial number of it's 900+ bases ( including nearly 300 in Germany) and bring the troops home and use their training to serve in the schools and other public areas.
Now that's the best idea I've seen all day.
But seriously, isn't it funny how the gun-right advocates are now clamoring for a huge new government-spending program (since they refuse to entertain the notion of the gun industry or the NRA paying for armed guards at all schools)? I thought only big-gubmint socialist America-hating liberals did that sort of thing.
Well, a business opportunity would be to sell just one gun per school on tax dollars. A better business would be to sell a couple more. A GREAT business opportunity would be to equip every teacher with one. It is what these idiots are about.
I understand.
Given the crap that goes on in so many schools, it would not be long before a teacher opened fire in a classroom. Then everyone can sue the school and blame whomever happens to sit the oval office at the time.
But seriously, isn't it funny how the gun-right advocates are now clamoring for a huge new government-spending program (since they refuse to entertain the notion of the gun industry or the NRA paying for armed guards at all schools)? I thought only big-gubmint socialist America-hating liberals did that sort of thing.
It's insane--even the crazy "prepper" types here who are so sure that they have to defend themselves against the government want armed officers EVERYWHERE. That's almost like living under martial law.
Given the crap that goes on in so many schools, it would not be long before a teacher opened fire in a classroom. Then everyone can sue the school and blame whomever happens to sit the oval office.
As long as they can blame others, they couldn't care less but to benefit more and more riding on the many idiots that make their base.
But seriously, isn't it funny how the gun-right advocates are now clamoring for a huge new government-spending program (since they refuse to entertain the notion of the gun industry or the NRA paying for armed guards at all schools)? I thought only big-gubmint socialist America-hating liberals did that sort of thing.
The gun lobby appears to be looking for a government hand out as a solution to gun violence.
All for armed guards protecting schools as long as the gun manufacturers and NRA pay for them! Not with my tax dollars.
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