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Old 12-21-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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There is nothing good about the gun trade. Guns have always been an annoyance in this country but now they have become a major issue. It's time to severely curtail the gun business.
Not gonna happen. Find a new cause to champion. May I suggest one that doesn't involve a RIGHT enshrined in the Constitution? Like maybe Save The Whales? Adopt A Highway? Books for Prisoners?
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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This has nothing to do with the sale of guns and everything to do with the demise of the crack era and better policing tactics in major cities where these murders were happening. Everyone knows this. NYC had 2,245 murders in 1991 and down to 536 in 2010. Go look up why those murders went down, it's not because more drug dealers had guns.
I think it's because the thugs were given their death penalty in utero.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Well the use of the internet has also skyrocketed at the same time, did the internet cause the crime to go down??
Wow. Another hysteric trying to tell us that the presence of the internet, will have the same effect on crime rates, as the presence of law-abiding citizens with guns. Where do these loons come from?
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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This has nothing to do with the sale of guns
Got any evidence to back up this bit of wishful thinking?

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Everyone knows this.
The Soviet state-run newspaper Pravda always used this assertion as "proof" that what they said was true. Especially when it wasn't true. Is that all you have?
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Not gonna happen. Find a new cause to champion. May I suggest one that doesn't involve a RIGHT enshrined in the Constitution?
Lol, LaPierre said this morning that part of the problem is video games and music videos. Don't they involve a RIGHT enshrined in the Constitution? Why, yes. Yes they do. That old thorn in the side of the finger shaking righties who want the left to shut up: The freedom of speech. Maybe all the fondlers need to get on the same page if they're going to run with the rights of the Constitution as their talking point. Because right now they are funking Bill of Rights 101.

My goodness how the righties hate it when anyone else exercises a Constitutional right. Why, just in this thread the OP tried to re-direct their efforts because he doesn't like what they have to say. Uproarious!
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Not gonna happen. Find a new cause to champion. May I suggest one that doesn't involve a RIGHT enshrined in the Constitution? Like maybe Save The Whales? Adopt A Highway? Books for Prisoners?
Amendments were meant to be amended. That's why the are called amendments.

The time for gun rights has passed. I see hunting rifles only in the future with very limited capabilities.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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Wow. Another hysteric trying to tell us that the presence of the internet, will have the same effect on crime rates, as the presence of law-abiding citizens with guns. Where do these loons come from?
Pointing out that correlation does not equal cause is hysterics??? Explain, please.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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Lol, LaPierre said this morning that part of the problem is video games and music videos. Don't they involve a RIGHT enshrined in the Constitution? Why, yes. Yes they do. Maybe all the fondlers need to get on the same page if they're going to run with the rights of the Constitution as their talking point. Because right now they are funking Bill of Rights 101.
I think you've skewed quite a few things in this post. The 2nd Amendment specifically guarantees the right own firearms. The 1st Amendment does not specifically guarantee the right video games or music. The judicial system is set up to adjudicate exactly what falls underneath the umbrella of "rights." While I doubt that severe restrictions on video games would pass Constutitional muster (if they are proposed at all), I do believe that your attempt to equate right to firearms to the right to own video games is quite a long stretch.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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Amendments were meant to be amended. That's why the are called amendments.

The time for gun rights has passed. I see hunting rifles only in the future with very limited capabilities.
I see a knee-jerk reactionary.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Amendments were meant to be amended. That's why the are called amendments.

The time for gun rights has passed. I see hunting rifles only in the future with very limited capabilities.
Do you truly see an amendment coming? The last amendment passed in 1992 - but it took over 100 years to gain approval. Before that it 1971 and was something so much easier to agree on - the voting age.
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