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Here's my take on this mess we've gotten ourselves into.
GUNS: We don't need access to assault rifles. An assault rifle is NOT a semi auto 22 that's used for plinking, It's not a bolt action 30/06 deer rifle, and its not just any "black scary looking gun", nor is it a semi auto shotgun used for hunting. I see no problem with a waiting period for a rifle, such as used to buy handguns. And I have no problem with requiring background checks at gun shows for any sales. That wouldn't have helped this last case but might stop another.
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS: This is one of those things I feel will aid in our downfall. There are people who are mentally unstable and not only should not be allowed to buy a gun---they should be institutionalized. The public isn't safe with some of these wackos roaming the streets. They should be called what they are and put away. Obviously I'm not politically correct and refuse to be.
RELGION: Put god back in the schools and public places. So what if your an atheist. Then ignore him. See, to turn the tables, your actions offend me and I want god back in this country and I really don't care whose god he is. nowadays it seems its wrong to believe so we have a generation that has no need to answer to "him". You see, perhaps in the past some wacko might stop short from killing a bunch of people because even though in the short term (this life) it's against the law but in the long term (eternity) he may believe he'll have to answer for his sins. The tipping point could be that. Now, it seems, it is common for people to believe that once your dead---your dead. Just pure nothingness, so there is no care as to how many people some wack job takes out.
VIDEO GAMES/TV: Come on. The violence and graffics have become very real and kids are exposed to these 24/7. I grew up in the 70's and I saw my share of killing on TV but it was typically the bad guys, war movies which depicted historical battles, science fiction with non-existing aliens, monsters, and cowboys and Indians in the old west. These movies were also only on at night and weekends during certain hours. Nowadays its 24/7 violence. If you don't want to watch a slash em up/shoot em up movie that just shows regular people killing regular people you can play these video games in which you kill ordinary people over and over again while trying to beat your previous score. I think these images are so ingrained in the heads of some that they can't differentiate between fiction and reality. On the games the ones they shot are back to kill again. All one has to do is hit restart. It doesn't happen that way in real life and I wonder how many of these sickos go into these shooting sprees thinking its a game but after seeing the blood and realizing that the ones they kill won't get up they decide to off themselves.
THE MEDEA, INTERNET, AND 24/7 "NEWS": In the past we had newspapers and the 10:00 news. Local news was reported. How many of us didn't even go beyond the front page? If someone killed 3 people in California we would not find out about it here in MD. There would be bigger issues to report in the small amount of space/time available for national events. Now you have multi cable news channels and the internet. We hear of every shooting as it happens and feel the world is going to end. Then the reporters sensationalize every tragedy and plaster the killers face and name all over, making him a celebrity. It's sick! That just makes another wacko with nothing want to one up the last wacko to gain fame.
ENFORCEMENT: Lock the bastards up and only brake out the key when they're on the way to the gallows. Then let them hang in public so others might think twice. No more slap on the wrists. If you kill somebody on purpose you should pay the price.
MEDICATION: For Christ's sake stop putting everybody on medication and claiming they have some kind of disorder. Just because some kid doesn't pay attention in class doesn't mean he need pills for the rest of his life. Perhaps the teacher is just BORING. Perhaps they couldn't sleep the night before because - get this- HE WASN"T TIRED!!!!! Stop drugging our kids.
FEAR: Stop spreading fear like everyone is bad. Go outside and play. Let your kids use their imagination. Talk to people. Turn off the stupid TV that along with violence shows all these doomsday programs in which the world is going to end with the next storm.
I better go now because I am the most optimistic person in the world but as I type I see we need help. But it can be done. Let's return family values.
As I said. I'm not politically correct. That is my take. I think we all have our ideas as to how to fix things. Perhaps some we'll agree on and some we won't. try to look for common ground and go from there. BTW, there we go again with bringing up these sickos names.
Neither am I, but I don't have any desire to see someone executed, that's just sick and twisted.
Actually I'm not very religious. I am a believer and feel we need to let god back into our world, but I haven't been to a church in nearly 30 years. If you don't believe then fine with me. I am sick of everyone wanting to do away with things because it offends them. Perhaps there are a bunch of us being offended by your actions as well. If the ten commandments were posted on some public building you have the right to ignore them just as you have the right to ignore my post.
If you feel I'm contradicting myself I'll remind you that the world is not black and white. Perhaps that is another thing wrong with our country these days---either right or left. No middle where one might have views from both sides. But that is for a later post perhaps.
Actually I'm not very religious. I am a believer and feel we need to let god back into our world, but I haven't been to a church in nearly 30 years. If you don't believe then fine with me. I am sick of everyone wanting to do away with things because it offends them. Perhaps there are a bunch of us being offended by your actions as well. If the ten commandments were posted on some public building you have the right to ignore them just as you have the right to ignore my post.
If you feel I'm contradicting myself I'll remind you that the world is not black and white. Perhaps that is another thing wrong with our country these days---either right or left. No middle where one might have views from both sides. But that is for a later post perhaps.
Having opposing views on both sides doesn't make you a moderate, it makes you either a flip flopper or insane.
Moderate means having views somewhere in the middle, and hardly any your proposals are moderate
How does it make me a flip flopper? I have my beliefs. Why does it make me insane? Because I don't share your beliefs.
As far as public hangings. Perhaps if people would actually see what could happen to them if they killed someone, they would think a little harder about not doing it. It seems now a criminal or pending criminal has no fear. They'll get put in a cell. Have TV, exercise, internet, meals. Then they'll be able to appeal and possibly get let out early for good behavior. Then if they don't like their living conditions they can do it again. Many won't agree with me on this but that's fine. Nobody has to agree with me.
marlinfshr;27449808]Here's my take on this mess we've gotten ourselves into.
GUNS: We don't need access to assault rifles. An assault rifle is NOT a semi auto 22 that's used for plinking, It's not a bolt action 30/06 deer rifle, and its not just any "black scary looking gun", nor is it a semi auto shotgun used for hunting. I see no problem with a waiting period for a rifle, such as used to buy handguns. And I have no problem with requiring background checks at gun shows for any sales. That wouldn't have helped this last case but might stop another.
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS: This is one of those things I feel will aid in our downfall. There are people who are mentally unstable and not only should not be allowed to buy a gun---they should be institutionalized. The public isn't safe with some of these wackos roaming the streets. They should be called what they are and put away. Obviously I'm not politically correct and refuse to be.
Yes they should be institutions and its one of the many problems our healthcare system has in this country, its money over health instead of vice/ versa.
RELGION: Put god back in the schools and public places. So what if your an atheist. Then ignore him. See, to turn the tables, your actions offend me and I want god back in this country and I really don't care whose god he is. nowadays it seems its wrong to believe so we have a generation that has no need to answer to "him". You see, perhaps in the past some wacko might stop short from killing a bunch of people because even though in the short term (this life) it's against the law but in the long term (eternity) he may believe he'll have to answer for his sins. The tipping point could be that. Now, it seems, it is common for people to believe that once your dead---your dead. Just pure nothingness, so there is no care as to how many people some wack job takes out.
God wasn't in any of the schools I went to in the '80s and not one of us has committed a mass shooting.
VIDEO GAMES/TV: Come on. The violence and graffics have become very real and kids are exposed to these 24/7. I grew up in the 70's and I saw my share of killing on TV but it was typically the bad guys, war movies which depicted historical battles, science fiction with non-existing aliens, monsters, and cowboys and Indians in the old west. These movies were also only on at night and weekends during certain hours. Nowadays its 24/7 violence. If you don't want to watch a slash em up/shoot em up movie that just shows regular people killing regular people you can play these video games in which you kill ordinary people over and over again while trying to beat your previous score. I think these images are so ingrained in the heads of some that they can't differentiate between fiction and reality. On the games the ones they shot are back to kill again. All one has to do is hit restart. It doesn't happen that way in real life and I wonder how many of these sickos go into these shooting sprees thinking its a game but after seeing the blood and realizing that the ones they kill won't get up they decide to off themselves.
There might be more gamers than gun owners, take away video games or making them PC is probably violating someone's 1st amendment rights. Again lots of gun owners don't kill people, neither do video gamers or violent movie watchers.
THE MEDEA, INTERNET, AND 24/7 "NEWS": In the past we had newspapers and the 10:00 news. Local news was reported. How many of us didn't even go beyond the front page? If someone killed 3 people in California we would not find out about it here in MD. There would be bigger issues to report in the small amount of space/time available for national events. Now you have multi cable news channels and the internet. We hear of every shooting as it happens and feel the world is going to end. Then the reporters sensationalize every tragedy and plaster the killers face and name all over, making him a celebrity. It's sick! That just makes another wacko with nothing want to one up the last wacko to gain fame.
I agree 100%. Enough already and I believe it causes copycats, and in this case last week and the way its been covered probably will.
ENFORCEMENT: Lock the bastards up and only brake out the key when they're on the way to the gallows. Then let them hang in public so others might think twice. No more slap on the wrists. If you kill somebody on purpose you should pay the price.
Make it public or pay per view with the money raised going to the victims families, but not just murderers, put rapists on and felons who obtain guns.
MEDICATION: For Christ's sake stop putting everybody on medication and claiming they have some kind of disorder. Just because some kid doesn't pay attention in class doesn't mean he need pills for the rest of his life. Perhaps the teacher is just BORING. Perhaps they couldn't sleep the night before because - get this- HE WASN"T TIRED!!!!! Stop drugging our kids.
100% agree, its crazy how many kids I know that are on Ritalin or Adderall or Prozac.
FEAR: Stop spreading fear like everyone is bad. Go outside and play. Let your kids use their imagination. Talk to people. Turn off the stupid TV that along with violence shows all these doomsday programs in which the world is going to end with the next storm.
I better go now because I am the most optimistic person in the world but as I type I see we need help. But it can be done. Let's return family
Maybe this should be its own topic but wtf is going on with Autism, were kids with it hidden in the '80s? Every time time you turn around another kid has been diagnosed with Autism or a type of it, Aspergers?
ADD, ADHD, restless leg syndrome, fibromyalgia, can't get a woodie. I know at least 10 people who are on Xanax.
It seems half the country is medicated, and no one knows some of the long term effects of these drugs and if they are passing side effects to their children, especially women. They don't fall in the wood category but you get my drift.
Back to Autism, I'm not saying all these kids should be locked up or any of them, but with so many cases being heard about today we need to learn why so many kids have it.
Last edited by James420; 12-21-2012 at 10:05 PM..
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How does it make me a flip flopper? I have my beliefs. Why does it make me insane? Because I don't share your beliefs.
As far as public hangings. Perhaps if people would actually see what could happen to them if they killed someone, they would think a little harder about not doing it. It seems now a criminal or pending criminal has no fear. They'll get put in a cell. Have TV, exercise, internet, meals. Then they'll be able to appeal and possibly get let out early for good behavior. Then if they don't like their living conditions they can do it again. Many won't agree with me on this but that's fine. Nobody has to agree with me.
The shooter committed suicide, I doubt public hangings would deter him, but hey if that doesn't work, send em to Christian schools, oh wait, the killer also went to one of those.
I disagree with everything the Op said. I want zero gun regulations at all. criminals dont wait for background checks and neither should a law abiding citizen.
gun control laws only effect the already law abiding.
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