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Old 12-22-2012, 04:52 PM
 
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My brother in law is a gun nut. He spends tens of thousands of dollars on guns. He sells them all the time and no questions asked as to who gets them. His "legal" guns are floating all over the place.
LOL according to you, but yet you know nothing, nada about guns or gun laws......

He can sell and buy as he pleases so long as he does it legally, and what's the no questions asked?
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The gun idiots keep bringing up cars as examples.
If you are referring to congressmen, the Brady Bunch, and other such paranoid gun haters as "gun idiots", you are correct. They frequently do try to compare guns to cars, and are as frequently debunked and refuted.

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They need to be licensed with a yearly renewal. They need to be registered to one single owner and not be used by anyone else. And they need to carry insurance for any damage they inflict.
None of the above are required for cars. And none should be required for guns.

Four silly fibs in one post. Another hysterical gun-hater bites the dust.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:55 PM
 
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I believe it is a good start. The gun idiots keep bringing up cars as examples. So lets treat guns just like cars.

They need to be licensed with a yearly renewal. They need to be registered to one single owner and not be used by anyone else. And they need to carry insurance for any damage they inflict.

Maybe Aetna Could Help Solve Gun Violence Crisis | MichaelMoore.com
Michael Moore?

Do you mean that guy with armed security?

They will have to come and take my guns. I am older, a cancer survivor, wealthy, and have the financial future of my children set. How do you think it will look when the US government comes and kills law abiding citizens, with no criminal records and pillars of the community, in order to advance their agenda? It might look very peculiar and will only fan the flames of secession.

I think that if (or when) the Feds start killing the pillars of communities, it will be a declaration of war on the US. If that happens, the US will lose. Keep in mind that MOST of the active duty military and vets are from OUR demographic. I was just chatting with an active duty lad today who was hunting on my farm and admired my Gadson flag (I took down my upside down US flag and burned it- no more US flags). He has a Gadson flag flying from his home and said MANY of his fellow active duty servicemen do as well.

The communists will have a hard time defeating America by buying votes for treats. Eventually, this scheme will fall apart and it is highly unlikely that the security forces of the current USA will support a forceful implementation of radical leftist political agendas.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:59 PM
 
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What have they done with smokers? I can go get cigarettes if I want, no law against it. Teens still smoke though they are not suppose to.

I can point to look what they have done with drugs and illegals; millions of pounds of illegal drugs flow into this country despite being banned; millions of illegal immigrants flow into the country despite laws against illegally entering the country.

The US could just ban firearms and it would not stop them from being in this country, especially considering anyone can make them at home.
That comment was based on a Tax law which was something like a 2000% tax increase several years ago. At the time i was still smoking, and rolling my own. The tax increase made a can of Drum which cost about 6 bucks rose to about 35 bucks.

I think we can pass a law that will be in the vicinity of 3000% for abortion don't you?

10,000% for same sex marriage seems about right, don't you think?

Evidently Pull my finger has a habit of pulling wool down over his own eyes.. Must be a Pull thing..

Sort of like if you nailed a hand grenade to a post and hung a sign on the pin saying Do not PULL this Fing uh err umm Pin! yeah Pin! Do Not Pull This Pin.... he would anyway...

And PUD. well I can't go there........
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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I believe it is a good start. The gun idiots keep bringing up cars as examples. So lets treat guns just like cars.

They need to be licensed with a yearly renewal. They need to be registered to one single owner and not be used by anyone else. And they need to carry insurance for any damage they inflict.

Maybe Aetna Could Help Solve Gun Violence Crisis | MichaelMoore.com
Showing, once again, that liberal gun grabbers don't know anything, about anything. How do you people manage to even turn on a computer?

Fine lets treat guns like cars. Cars DO NOT need to be licensed at all, much less every year. They DO NOT need to be registered to any owner. They DO NOT need to carry any insurance. You need absolutely none of that to use a car on your own property so lets treat guns the same way.
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I believe it is a good start. The gun idiots keep bringing up cars as examples. So lets treat guns just like cars.

They need to be licensed with a yearly renewal. They need to be registered to one single owner and not be used by anyone else. And they need to carry insurance for any damage they inflict.

Maybe Aetna Could Help Solve Gun Violence Crisis | MichaelMoore.com

great, lets treat firearms just like cars.

I can go to any car dealership in Wisconsin and buy any vehicle I want with no insurance, no drivers license, no registration and no background check at all as long as I only use it on my private property. if we go by your example, I am free from all goverment forms, registration schemes, and background checks as long as I only use the firearm on my private property.


boy, by going on your example, I can buy any firearm i want as long as I only use it on my property with no goverment laws or registration schemes needed at all. in fact everyone could do that too. real assault rifles here I come.

up yours michael moore, and thanks for the great idea.
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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If the person driving it isn't on your policy then you're likely liable for whatever occurs as a result of the drivers actions if said driver isn't covered...Personal responsibility, I thought that's what conservatives were all about?
That isn't what my policy says.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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The 2nd amendment, maybe. But they could care less about the 1st.
wrong again friend, remember that the second amendment supports the first amendment, as well as the rest of the constitution. take away the second amendment and the rest is just a piece of paper.

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Is there an entire amendment saying people have the right to carry assault rifles with 30 round magazines? How about Nukes, should everybody be able to have their own personal Nuke? Constitution says "bear arms"..I don't know what part of the sticks you're in but in civilized America, all cars are to be registered and insured.
there is a difference between a right and a privilege. driving is a privilege not a right.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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Forbs Magazine: "In fact law-abiding citizens in America used guns in self-defense 2.5 million times during 1993 (about 6,850 times per day), and actually shot and killed 2 1/2 times as many criminals as police did (1,527 to 606). Those civilian self-defense shootings resulted in less than 1/5th as many incidents as police where an innocent person was mistakenly identified as a criminal (2% versus 11%).

Just how effectively have gun bans worked to make citizens safer in other countries? Take the number of home break-ins while residents are present as an indication. In Canada and Britain, both with tough gun-control laws, nearly half of all burglaries occur when residents are present. But in the U.S. where many households are armed, only about 13% happen when someone is home.

Recognizing clear statistical benefit evidence, 41 states now allow competent, law-abiding adults to carry permitted or permit-exempt concealed handguns. As a result, crime rates in those states have typically fallen at least 10% in the year following enactment."
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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Forbs Magazine: "In fact law-abiding citizens in America used guns in self-defense 2.5 million times during 1993 (about 6,850 times per day), and actually shot and killed 2 1/2 times as many criminals as police did (1,527 to 606). Those civilian self-defense shootings resulted in less than 1/5th as many incidents as police where an innocent person was mistakenly identified as a criminal (2% versus 11%).

Just how effectively have gun bans worked to make citizens safer in other countries? Take the number of home break-ins while residents are present as an indication. In Canada and Britain, both with tough gun-control laws, nearly half of all burglaries occur when residents are present. But in the U.S. where many households are armed, only about 13% happen when someone is home.

Recognizing clear statistical benefit evidence, 41 states now allow competent, law-abiding adults to carry permitted or permit-exempt concealed handguns. As a result, crime rates in those states have typically fallen at least 10% in the year following enactment."
Thanks for posting all of this. Its facts that the NRA should be putting out there more. I much prefer my 9mm than calling 911 and waiting for help.
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