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Guns are inanimate objects that needs a criminal to provide the action to make them into the scapegoat they are today. The underlying problem with gun violence is that while the media has made you believe a issue with hunting rifles and their deadliness is the cause of this latest massacre, it actually is a distraction to rid you of more freedom and replace it with decisions already made for you.
People who simply reason of pure emotion and without statistical evidence are also partly to blame for perpetuating this myth that guns and citizens (non-criminal citizens) being armed is somehow leading to this phenomena.
Couple of points to consider, during the 1994-2004 era when semi-auto rifles were banned there was a statistically insignificant movement in the gun crime. Why? While someone who isn't able to properly reason might not understand, UN-engineering guns is not possible or realistic and will result in only people who don't have anything to lose by snubbing their nose at this law and taking black market measures to obtain these "banned" guns. The result is shifting the balance of weapon-power into the black market/criminal element and leaving people who fear breaking laws (most normal people) by losing their job, family, prison, etc and maybe having an inferior weapon or no weapon at all on a equal level to defend in the event of an unavoidable encounter with said criminals.
Furthermore, the highest rates of murder and gun related crime stem from cities like Chicago, LA and Miami where local laws already have strict enforcement on guns compared to places that are more rural and lax on regulation. Additionally, 90+% of gun crimes are committed with a handgun, and an illegal one to boot. This just shows you that anything you do will not rid the world of guns, and more specifically criminals with guns. You cannot logically say that disarming law abiding citizens is either good for their own safety or the safety of the nation as a whole.
Another point for those who are misinformed, Switzerland has mandatory armed service for males which results in you being equipped with a rifle that you are given upon service. This has resulted in a massive militia that can be called upon, self defense, hunting, etc. The kicker? They don't have any gun crime, and if they do its usually because of refugees that aren't actually part of the real Swiss culture.
Ultimately, the issue is so far from guns if you have a shred of logic and reason to your mind. The problem stems from failure to respect life and property by a large majority of this country (USA) and the perpetuating government for legitimizing this way of life. Now more than ever we need guns, we saw a near collapse in 2008/2009 by the Wall Street casino and could have easily had looting, squatting, hunting needs, and a host of other situations that if the worst case scenario played out I can assure you a gun would have been a commodity and not just a paperweight.
Oh, and by the way its the 2nd amendment and without the proper channels of government removing that it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks right or wrong. Its the law of the land, like it or not.
Ultimately, the issue is so far from guns if you have a shred of logic and reason to your mind. The problem stems from failure to respect life and property by a large majority of this country (USA) and the perpetuating government for legitimizing this way of life. Now more than ever we need guns, we saw a near collapse in 2008/2009 by the Wall Street casino and could have easily had looting, squatting, hunting needs, and a host of other situations that if the worst case scenario played out I can assure you a gun would have been a commodity and not just a paperweight.
The bolded part above is pretty ironic given that you spend the 1st half of your post trying to argue "guns are irrelevant" and then spend the 2nd half arguing "we need guns more than ever". It's either one or the other. I believe the overwhelming majority of non-Americans understand that more restrictions on gun ownership are not going to instantly solve the problem of violent crime in the US, and that most people would at least respect that argument even if they disagree with this. However, very few people will agree with the apocalyptic mumbo jumbo of the 2nd half of that post. I'm not going to suggest that this line of thinking actually caused Newtown to happen, but given the facts, it is certainly fair game to ask whether it facilitated the massacre.
I live in the Washington, D.C. metro area. This is where the Pentagon, the CIA, FBI and NRA (National Rifle Association) headquarters are all located. So, you might think that people who live here are fanatical about guns. But that is not the case because this is a predominantly liberal area.
I have never owned a gun and don't care much for them. The U.S. has 50% of all the private gun-ownership in the world, from what I've read. Why do Americans need so many guns? To protect themselves from their own government? Yeah right. There is no reason for it. Take most of them away I say.
Ironically, and surely out of lack of investigation and nothing more you do know that the great city of Washtington DC is one of the most gun-crime laden cities in the USA? Why does the local gun/magazine restrictions not result in the lowest of crime? Simple, you are misguided in your anger/outrage/logic of understanding the root cause of criminal acts against people in general.
Another staggering example, Mexico has 11,000+ homicides a year and the amount of guns per 100 people = 15.
USA 9000ish homicides per year and the guns per 100 people? 89.
Switzerland had 40 homicides in 2012, the guns per 100 people = 46.
UK had 18 homicides and 6 guns per 100 people.
There is no solid, direct correlation between guns per person and homicides. Its a deeper issue than what most people can comprehend when they are bombarded with opinion, emotion and misinformation.
I'd be happy to further educate you and help you interpret data if you'd like, but I really hope you are not disseminating this kind of foolishness to friends, family and other people and you could potentially affect real peoples rights due to it. Unfortunately an uneducated vote cancels an educated one.
The bolded part above is pretty ironic given that you spend the 1st half of your post trying to argue "guns are irrelevant" and then spend the 2nd half arguing "we need guns more than ever". It's either one or the other. I believe the overwhelming majority of non-Americans understand that more restrictions on gun ownership are not going to instantly solve the problem of violent crime in the US, and that most people would at least respect that argument even if they disagree with this. However, very few people will agree with the apocalyptic mumbo jumbo of the 2nd half of that post. I'm not going to suggest that this line of thinking actually caused Newtown to happen, but given the facts, it is certainly fair game to ask whether it facilitated the massacre.
Ok, let me clarify. Guns are irrelevant in the blame game of mass murders and the reason that crime is committed/high with guns. By the OP's tone and views it tends to lay blame essentially solely on the guns, that they behold a magical power to turn ordinary people into raging murders and gun-toting criminals once they possess the gun. (The Ring from lord of the rings) That is what I am getting at, and anyone that isn't completely delusional knows this has nothing to do with criminal nature or intent of our country. (If you believe that, you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun as well.)
Secondly, I am clearly arguing that the logical need for a gun is still necessary for law abiding citizens because they will commence with day to day life normally despite the OPs point of view and understands that the gun is nothing more than a tool like a shovel, hammer or spoon that makes situations when it is needed more likely that they will come out victorious. (Don't we all agree that the criminals will always use the tools for their nefarious purposes, outlawed or lawfully?)
Simply put, guns don't commit crimes or make criminals and guns are essential to stop crime and criminals.
Lastly, the apocalyptic mumbo jumbo is probably a what, 1% chance in our lifetime? Would you spend $500 to have a tool that will last a lifetime and act as an quazi-insurance policy for hunting (food) and protection for yourself and family in the event that a 1% chance pans out? I don't know about you, while I think the scenario is never going to happen on a Mad Max level, however if we had similar situations to the Great Depression or worse, coupled with the raging culture disrespect for law as it is in 2012 I think it is money very well spent and even though you apparently don't side with the constitution, you might just thank me if a gun saves you or your family in some shape or fashion.
Ironically, and surely out of lack of investigation and nothing more you do know that the great city of Washtington DC is one of the most gun-crime laden cities in the USA? Why does the local gun/magazine restrictions not result in the lowest of crime? Simple, you are misguided in your anger/outrage/logic of understanding the root cause of criminal acts against people in general.
Another staggering example, Mexico has 11,000+ homicides a year and the amount of guns per 100 people = 15.
USA 9000ish homicides per year and the guns per 100 people? 89.
Switzerland had 40 homicides in 2012, the guns per 100 people = 46.
UK had 18 homicides and 6 guns per 100 people.
There is no solid, direct correlation between guns per person and homicides. Its a deeper issue than what most people can comprehend when they are bombarded with opinion, emotion and misinformation.
I'd be happy to further educate you and help you interpret data if you'd like, but I really hope you are not disseminating this kind of foolishness to friends, family and other people and you could potentially affect real peoples rights due to it. Unfortunately an uneducated vote cancels an educated one.
Guten Tag!
I understand that there is not a direct correlation between the number of guns and crime statistics. As I'm sure you know, violent crime in American cities is heavily concentrated in low-income neighborhoods or committed by people from those areas. This is true of Washington, D.C. as well. Each country has its own particular demographic characteristics.
However, my issue is why do Americans need SO MANY guns? They simply don't. And especially not assault rifles. I believe there should be a limit on the total number of guns available to civilians in this country and it should be reduced dramatically. The availability of guns is certainly part of the problem in violent crime.
Actually just about any Australian can own a gun if they so wished, If i wanted one all i would have to do is drive down to the local gun club sign up and pass a very basic safety test.
You can not get Military Grade, Auto or Semi Auto weapons legally, that does not mean you cannot obtain a bolt action rifle powerfull enough to kill a person fairly easily.
Guns have being and still are very much part of the culture of rural Australia (I Grew up in that area, our family handed in 2 rifles and a Pump Action Shot Gun), the trouble is that they have never really being part of the urban culture, which is where the huge majority of the people (and Voters) live.
The Browning BAR semi-automatic hunting rifle is a hunting rifle that has been produced for decades. It does not look anything like an AR-15. Why should this be illegal in Australia? It is definitely not military grade.
I moved here to the US last year. People here in general are paranoid, I met some who own more than 5 guns! Statistics show that most of the crimes here was by legal weapons. in my opinion I'm against civilian carrying or owning weapons, anyone can get psychologically screwed and go crazy here!
Your hilarious!!! I own over 100 firearms. Don't worry I'm quite sane and quite well trained in the art of firearm self defense.
Welcome to the U.S. now go purchase a gun and I'll teach you how to use it properly.
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