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Learn the definition of treason before opening your mouth.
Article 3 defines treason learn the definition before you open your mouth. Going to meet an enemy without permission of the government is aiding and comfort.
The country did not have the will to charge him or jane fonda that does not mean their actions free them from acting in a treasonous way
I do oppose Obama I oppose his policies as a person he is fine. He is not what I would say is squeaky clean with all his deceptions.
Liberman however is a liberal who Caucus with Dems that I would think would be a great SS
Yeah he loved those medals so much he kept em too and tossed some other guys over the white house fence in protest. He stomped on his fellow service members to launch his political career.
And not to mention he earned his money the old fashioned way by marrying it.... twice. But then what else would you expect from Massachusetts?
John Kerry meets with enemy in Paris an act of treason 1 Bush 0
John Kerry claims He knew of soldiers who raped and tortured the enemy and used mass murder 1 Bush 0
John Kerry Winter soldier meeting with communists 1 Bush 0
I don't have a dog in this fight, but, I do remember the controversy. Of the 3,500 men in PT boats,
250 of them signed papers claming Kerry lied about his service in Vietnam. Of the 250, 180 of them went on television with an anti-kerry add. That (and all his anti-war protests) is probably why he lost the election.[/L
Intresting side note to the whole thing was Dan Rather (CBS newscaster) being fired for altering documents about George W Bush & his service record. Go figure....
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Article 3 defines treason learn the definition before you open your mouth. Going to meet an enemy without permission of the government is aiding and comfort.
The country did not have the will to charge him or jane fonda that does not mean their actions free them from acting in a treasonous way
Sorry, but "unauthorized" meetings with the "enemy" in a neutral country is and of itself not grounds for a charge of treason under Article 3. What was discussed and the nature of the discussion would have to establish whether such a charge would be warranted and it would require, as set forth in Article 3, two witnesses to such discussions.
In 1971 Kerry openly met in Paris with Nguyen Thi Binh the then foreign minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of South Vietnam not the foreign minister of the People's Republic of Vietnam. While that may be a semantical argument for some, it is enough of a difference when it comes to securing an indictment on the charge of treason. Kerry also met with the delegation representing the Republic of South Vietnam and reported to the Congress that his meeting was one of fact finding and was not a party to any negotiations.
It can be argued, as Kerry did himself, that such a "fact finding" trip skirted the edges of an Article 3 violation. But it is enough to make an attempt to bring a charge of treason under Article 3 problematic at best. Considering that only 13 people in 200 years have been convicted of treason and of far more heinous and clear cut acts, it is easy to see why the U.S. would have never brought a charge of treason against Kerry. In short talk about Kerry as a traitor is more hyperbole than a factual charge.
Sorry, but "unauthorized" meetings with the "enemy" in a neutral country is and of itself not grounds for a charge of treason under Article 3. What was discussed and the nature of the discussion would have to establish whether such a charge would be warranted and it would require, as set forth in Article 3, two witnesses to such discussions.
In 1971 Kerry openly met in Paris with Nguyen Thi Binh the then foreign minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of South Vietnam not the foreign minister of the People's Republic of Vietnam. While that may be a semantical argument for some, it is enough of a difference when it comes to securing an indictment on the charge of treason. Kerry also met with the delegation representing the Republic of South Vietnam and reported to the Congress that his meeting was one of fact finding and was not a party to any negotiations.
It can be argued, as Kerry himself did, that such a "fact finding" trip skirted the edges of a violation of Article 3 it is enough that attempting to bring a charge of treason under Article 3 would have been problematic at best. Considering that only 13 people in 200 years have been convicted of treason of far more heinous acts it is easy to see why the U.S. would have never brought a charge of treason against Kerry. In short talk about Kerry as a traitor is more hyperbole than a factual charge.
The provisional government of south Vietnam known as the PRG was supported by communist states and was not the government of south Vietnam , until south Vietnam fell. The PRG was not an ally and was one of the enemies at the table in paris . He was not authorized by or government to meet with an enemy . That should have been interpurted as giving comfort he and jane fonda should have been jailed not in the senate and in movies. The fact that he has his own wing in their museum proves his worth to them
The provisional government of south Vietnam known as the PRG was supported by communist states and was not the government of south Vietnam
I suppose that is why it was named Provisional.
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He was not authorized by or government to meet with an enemy.
If you would care to site what part of the U.S. Code that prohibits the mere meeting of members of a foreign and hostile nations, even one that we are in a war with (not the small "w") then feel free to cite it.
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That should have been interpurted as giving comfort he and jane fonda should have been jailed not in the senate and in movies
I'm not discussing Jane Fonda, but rather John Kerry so unless you have full knowledge of the CONTENT of the discussions between Kerry and Binh, two witnesses to that discussion, you opinion is pretty much a non-starter.
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