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Originally Posted by itlltickleurinnerds
Would you as a gun owner support closing the loop hole on face to face private sales and require all sales have back ground checks? This would not restrict anything you can buy and sell it would just require that if you own a gun and want to sell it you have to go through a dealer or police dept. to do the back ground check. If in the new law it was written that you could not be charged for any part of it, so no cost to you but a bit of time to meet your buyer at a dealer or police dept. to do a back ground check You would get a a paper that said you sold this gun to so and so and they passed the check. Would you support this one piece of regulation or not. If not please tell me your rational on why not?
To answer the OP: Yes, I would accept that. I would actually accept a number of restrictions - with two caveats.
(1) We put a time limit on it, like the previous ban had, and the law would be repealed if significant reductions in loss of life had not occurred. Because I am knowingly submitting to having my rights eroded in exchange for saving lives. If lives are not saved, then no deal.
(2) There is a systematic, well planned, and generally impossible for modern bureaucracy approach to getting rid of the illegal guns. I, as a good guy, am in good faith submitting to some restrictions; in return, you had GD well better hold up your end and get rid of the guns held illegally by people who take lives.
Fair arguments. However, with regards to #1, I would say, the sunset clause should apply for a period greater than just 5-10 years. In fact, perhaps a generation (20 years).
No gun should be sold to ANYONE who hasn't passed a background check, period. To make sure this occurs gun sales should only be allowed from licensed gun dealers. No internet sales, no second hand sales, and no gun shows where no background check or waiting period happens.
That's the only sane thing to do and, yes, all of this is completely constitutional.
Yeah, I fail to see the difference between a brand new gun purchased from a dealer and a 5 year old gun purchased on Craig's list.
This is how it goes.
Seller-"The price is $250 and please show proof you have no criminal record.
itlltickleurinnerds nope i am not going to support anything but the law. There is plenty of law, and no enforcement. Stop creating more stupid laws that can not or will not be enforced.
There is NO paper LAW that is self enforcing.. I have never broken any law that would make ME a Prohibited Person.
There is no reason for me to take back ground check after back ground check for each gun I buy either, but I do because in NH that is the LAW.
I like face to face sales of guns to other state residents I KNOW sometimes, where there is no back ground check. I know these people, face to face and also create 2 bills of sale so I know where the gun went 30 years later.
Why i do that is because if the gun does get used in a crime I am not the last guy in line.
Since I don't make the rules I don't care what other sellers do.
Would you have links to crimes where FTF sales guns were used in crimes?
I know that answer....... NO you don't.
Once more I will remind you that you are the worst kind of gun owner. I hope that when your state begins confiscation you are one of the first victims to the Police State you built. That will serve you right.
What crimes have you personally committed, other than maybe you are a psyco and should have your guns removed???
Would you as a gun owner support closing the loop hole on face to face private sales and require all sales have back ground checks?
In principal, yes. However, there presently exists no mechanism to do so. Even if I decided I wanted to do a background check on a prospective purchaser of my privately owned firearm even though it's not required, I couldn't, since I'm not an FFL and do not have access to the system.
Rented Ryder trucks can be weapons of Mass Destruction as well.
Faked ID, here are your guns Mr. Criminal.
Keep your incrementalist destruction of my freedoms and rights.
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