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View Poll Results: Is overpopulation a problem?
Yes, and we need to kill off the excess population 3 6.67%
Yes, and we need to control how many children people can have 5 11.11%
Yes, but I think it's possible to curb growth without violating people's rights 18 40.00%
Undecided 0 0%
No, overpopulation is hype 19 42.22%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-24-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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It is an interesting question.

In the past overpopulation was a real and legitimate concern but what has taken place over the last 20-30 years is that as countries develop, population declines as a result several major nations, Japan and China for example are facing severe shortages of a younger generation while at the same time experiencing an increasingly aged population.

So, I would have to say that overpopulation will continue to be an issue, is it one that it is naturally reversing itself. I don't know, I've just become aware of the issue and haven't spent that much time exploring it.
China? There are plenty of young chinese living here in the USA. Maybe we should give some back to China?
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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You could fit the entire population of the world in Texas. Physical overpopulation is of no concern. We have enough food currently to feed 10/11 billion people, food is of no concern. It is the distribution of these resources that is the concern. The areas that need it the most are the areas that can not support themselves. Plus human nature of greed, etc gets in the way.
We may be able to fit them in Texas, but there's currently not enough water to sustain that much life. Here in Corpus Christi (coastal bend) for example, our water reservoir levels are just below 40% of capacity.
we are in Stage 2 water restriction, no watering between 10 AM and 6 PM. Many cities, regions and towns are facing similar shortages.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Some countries and continents are overpopulated, while some are not; Japan, most if not all of Europe and the USA are all experiencing declining birthrates.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:11 PM
 
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We may be able to fit them in Texas, but there's currently not enough water to sustain that much life. Here in Corpus Christi (coastal bend) for example, our water reservoir levels are just below 40% of capacity.
we are in Stage 2 water restriction, no watering between 10 AM and 6 PM. Many cities, regions and towns are facing similar shortages.

You've just hit upon the real problem of overpopulation. The fact that you think we don't have enough fresh water is a perfect example of the problems we're going to be (or already are) experiencing with overpopulation. We have plenty of water, some of it just has salt in it. We have the capability to desalinate it, but it requires far less of an initial investment just to continue to suck it out of the aquifer. It's the same story with the computer on which you typed your post. We have the capability to design machines to handle the manufacturing such devices, but it requires less initial investment to get a bunch of extremely low-paid people in China to do it. How about renewable energy? We have the ability to develop that technology, but why bother when Texas tea is just sitting a few hundred feet down and we've already got the technology perfected to suck stuff out of the ground.

The exact same story is played out in virtually every area of society. The real problem with overpopulation is that its effects will necessitate reexamining a ton of our conventions, key among them is the profit motive (especially the short-term fixated, extremely high margin, morally ambiguous uber profit motive that has been developed over the last 35 years or so).
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:17 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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You've just hit upon the real problem of overpopulation. The fact that you think we don't have enough fresh water is a perfect example of the problems we're going to be (or already are) experiencing with overpopulation. We have plenty of water, some of it just has salt in it. We have the capability to desalinate it, but it requires far less of an initial investment just to continue to suck it out of the aquifer. It's the same story with the computer on which you typed your post. We have the capability to design machines to handle the manufacturing such devices, but it requires less initial investment to get a bunch of extremely low-paid people in China to do it. How about renewable energy? We have the ability to develop that technology, but why bother when Texas tea is just sitting a few hundred feet down and we've already got the technology perfected to suck stuff out of the ground.

The exact same story is played out in virtually every area of society. The real problem with overpopulation is that its effects will necessitate reexamining a ton of our conventions, key among them is the profit motive (especially the short-term fixated, extremely high margin, morally ambiguous uber profit motive that has been developed over the last 35 years or so).
This... it is all about accessibility. Our planet is covered in over 70% water and is constantly being bombarded by solar energy.
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