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Old 12-25-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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There is nothing that the GOP can do at this point. IMO they should just sit back and let the Titanic sink on this one and keep a detailed ledger over failed liberal policies over the next two decades.

Like it or not, the next election has already been wrapped up; Hillary has already been crowned. Next up will be Michelle Obama after her...

The Republicans will simply have to sit back and enjoy the ride on this one...they still have another 20 years (Obama's 4 + Hillary's 8+ Michelle Obama's 8) before they can get back in the driver's seat.

I'm not a Gingrich fan but he is absolutely correct on this one...

There is no way a GOP candidate can win a Presidential election against Hillary with a dynasty of support by Bill Clinton and the legendary rock star appeal of Barack Obama.

That would be the equivilent of an artist selling more albums than the Beatles, Michael Jackson and Justin Bieber combined....it's not going to happen.


Correct.

Keep in mind that no matter how badly New Deal tinkering with the economy failed, FDR still had to die in office to lose the White House. The key to Democratic political success is economic failure. By destroying Capitalism, Democrats make otherwise hard working and independent Americans sufficiently desperate and dependent on government largess that responsible voices cannot be heard.

The last time this happened we endured double-digit unemployment for more than a decade with relief only coming when the military draft was reinstated in September of 1940. This time the Democrat's political success will likely end when our ability to pass debt to future generations ends. As we saw in the last election, six trillion in new debt in just four years, a feat that should have sunk anyone's political career ten or fifteen years ago, barely raised an eye brow this time.

So the course is set and we'll just have to ride it out.
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Correct.

The key to Democratic political success is economic failure.
So right!

1929: economic ruin as a result of unregulated GOP polociy

2008: economic ruin as a result of GOP deregulation


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By destroying Capitalism, Democrats make otherwise hard working and independent Americans sufficiently desperate and dependent on government largess that responsible voices cannot be heard.
By destroying capitalism, Pubs bring on the conditions to put millions of productive citizens out of work and wake them up to the idiocy of unregulated competitive financial shenanigans.

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The last time this happened we endured double-digit unemployment for more than a decade with relief only coming when the military draft was reinstated in September of 1940. This time the Democrat's political success will likely end when our ability to pass debt to future generations ends. As we saw in the last election, six trillion in new debt in just four years, a feat that should have sunk anyone's political career ten or fifteen years ago, barely raised an eye brow this time.

So the course is set and we'll just have to ride it out.
Enjoy the ride.

Me?

As a former long-time Republican, I'll enjoy watching them devour their own (like they're doing now with Hagel and Powell) as they slide down the slope a little further each election cycle. I'll be interested to see if they can regain some mental ability during my lifetime or if they continue to nominate and support really stupid candidates for high office.

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Old 12-25-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Baldock, hertfordshire, England
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They'll hollow themselves out even more (if thats possible), just like our tories did. It'll probably work better in the USA. In the UK we still have a semblance of democracy and small parties with limited funding can, on occasion, steal vote share from the larger parties when the large parties concede to centrist 'moderate' interests.

In america the two party (or one party, two faces) will always prevail.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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Willful ignorance. I mean come on. If you're going to start a thread like this, at least own up to it. Don't talk about freak flags and then feign innocence. You're a Democrat and want to gloat over the sad state of the Republican party. That's fine. But don't turn around and pretend your intention was serious inquiry into the future of the conservative movement. You started a conversational space to let liberals crack jokes about how irrelevant and stupid conservatives are, not a legitimate discussion.
This. Nothing more than that
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Smile What's next for the GOP?

It's alliterative.

The 2016 GOP nominees

Besides, it could be known as the P - P ticket.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: NJ
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As a former long-time Republican, I'll enjoy watching them devour their own (like they're doing now with Hagel and Powell) as they slide down the slope a little further each election cycle. I'll be interested to see if they can regain some mental ability during my lifetime or if they continue to nominate and support really stupid candidates for high office.


The scary thing IMO is the GOP has not bottomed out yet. By 2016, the country will revisit 2009, Democratc POTUS, House, and Senate supermajority.

Boehner's, Cantor's, and McConnell's job will be to serve the coffee and donuts each morning.

Perhaps a 2nd run of 2009-2010 will awaken the sleeping Establishment GOP enough to take control back from the asylum members aka Tea Party.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Like this one?

Today, 04:39 AM
WestCobb
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Merry Christmas Democrats!
Anyone else think this Christmas is just a little more merry because Obama beat the Republidouchicans?
So? Have you checked out the number of threads started by XXX? Or any other right-winger?

I guess only RWNJ's can start threads now. Goodness knows - there are enough on this forum and they start plenty of threads. Sometimes duplicates and triplicates of the same damn thing.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Correct.

Keep in mind that no matter how badly New Deal tinkering with the economy failed, FDR still had to die in office to lose the White House. The key to Democratic political success is economic failure. By destroying Capitalism, Democrats make otherwise hard working and independent Americans sufficiently desperate and dependent on government largess that responsible voices cannot be heard.

The last time this happened we endured double-digit unemployment for more than a decade with relief only coming when the military draft was reinstated in September of 1940. This time the Democrat's political success will likely end when our ability to pass debt to future generations ends. As we saw in the last election, six trillion in new debt in just four years, a feat that should have sunk anyone's political career ten or fifteen years ago, barely raised an eye brow this time.

So the course is set and we'll just have to ride it out.
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
So right!

1929: economic ruin as a result of unregulated GOP policy

2008: economic ruin as a result of GOP deregulation




By destroying capitalism, Pubs bring on the conditions to put millions of productive citizens out of work and wake them up to the idiocy of unregulated competitive financial shenanigans.



Enjoy the ride.

Me?

As a former long-time Republican, I'll enjoy watching them devour their own (like they're doing now with Hagel and Powell) as they slide down the slope a little further each election cycle. I'll be interested to see if they can regain some mental ability during my lifetime or if they continue to nominate and support really stupid candidates for high office.



1939: 17.3% unemployment, then WWII.

Hardly a success story.


GOP deregulation?

Check with free trader and all-around bank deregulator Bill Clinton on that one...

"Former President Bill Clinton said his Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers were wrong in the advice they gave him about regulating derivatives when he was in office."

Clinton Says Rubin, Summers Gave `Wrong' Derivatives Advice - Bloomberg

Clinton sent low skill jobs that people who get CRA and subprime loans depend on to pay their mortgages to Mexico and China under free trade deals while allowing illegal immigrants to take the same low skill jobs here, required the GSEs to buy up CRA loans that they and commercial banks bundled into toxic unregulated derivatives that were traded as AAA investments...what could possibly go wrong?
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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1939: 17.3% unemployment, then WWII.

Hardly a success story.


GOP deregulation?

Check with free trader and all-around bank deregulator Bill Clinton on that one...

"Former President Bill Clinton said his Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers were wrong in the advice they gave him about regulating derivatives when he was in office."

Clinton Says Rubin, Summers Gave `Wrong' Derivatives Advice - Bloomberg

Clinton sent low skill jobs that people who get CRA and subprime loans depend on to pay their mortgages to Mexico and China under free trade deals while allowing illegal immigrants to take the same low skill jobs here, required the GSEs to buy up CRA loans that they and commercial banks bundled into toxic unregulated derivatives that were traded as AAA investments...what could possibly go wrong?
RWNJ "logic"...

The 2008 Bush recession is Clinton's fault and it's Obama's fault the economy isn't surging ahead now. And Obama didn't get bin Laden, it was Dubya's groundwork that got him.
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Old 12-26-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Now that the GOP has proven itself to be non viable option for serious voters in real elections, it is free to let its freak flag fly and engage in nutty schemes and political fantasies. What brand of ridiculousness do you think it will come up with next?
because you choose to insult 47% of the people who voted republican shows there is no hope
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