Israel Lobby tries to sink CHuck Hagel's appointment as secretary of Defense.

[Some_Random_Guy]

Originally Posted by Kracer

Have you lost confidence in your elected legislative representative and have doubts about their ethics and character? Are you concerned they can be 'bought' or otherwise pursuaded, against their will, to support the lobby?

I'll take "YES" for 500, Alex.

[Electric Blue]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

Really? Not bright enough? Let's see.....

He's a decorated combat vet, a former senator, former CEO, a millionaire, sits on several corporate boards, etc..

Ok, let's get to you: not a decorated combat vet, not a former senator, not a former CEO (nor a present one), not a millionaire, and you sit on no corporate boards.

In other words, you sound ridiculous talking about what he's suited to doing when your record pales in comparison to his.

using the term "Jewish Lobby" shows a lack of tact at the very least. Not very smart.
As a side note,I think the AFL-CIo,Planned Parenthood and other leftwing groups should oppose HAgel given his voting record.

[zombieApocExtraordinaire]

Originally Posted by Electric Blue

using the term "Jewish Lobby" shows a lack of tact at the very least. \

How else do you describe it? I personally prefer the Zionist Lobby but then people think that's anti-semitic.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by Electric Blue

using the term "Jewish Lobby" shows a lack of tact at the very least. Not very smart.
As a side note,I think the AFL-CIo,Planned Parenthood and other leftwing groups should oppose HAgel given his voting record.

Someone should be nominated based on their merits, too many one issue congressmen, if he is capable and the best candidate then nominate him, let the narrow minded have their day.

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by Electric Blue

using the term "Jewish Lobby" shows a lack of tact at the very least. Not very smart.
As a side note,I think the AFL-CIo,Planned Parenthood and other leftwing groups should oppose HAgel given his voting record.

Ok. Your last sentence is somewhat salient.

[chielgirl]

Originally Posted by Kracer

That's what lobbyists do.
It is legal to lobby.

Have you lost confidence in your elected legislative representative and have doubts about their ethics and character? Are you concerned they can be 'bought' or otherwise pursuaded, against their will, to support the lobby?

Your elected reps are the only ones who can pass legislation as lobbyists do not have that power granted to them.

It's a lobby for a foreign nation.
It should be absolutely illegal for other countries to lobby the US government.

I don't like Hagel, nor would I vote for him had I the option, but I don't give one whit what a foreign lobby wants.

[MJJersey]

If the pro-Israel lobby is fighting against him then that would give me at least one reason to support his appointment.

[djacques]

I am going to e-mail my senators in support of Hagel. It's about time we had some leaders who aren't handpicked by AIPAC.

[Pruzhany]

This whole mess was started by one small group of zealots and not AIPAC. Have we gotten to a point where its all yellow journalism and no fact checking by any American media?

Here they are:
Emergency Committee for Israel

These extremists don't speak for the majority, yet they are put on the front page as representing the majority.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/27/op...agel.html?_r=0

[padcrasher]

Calling it the "Jewish lobby" tars all Jews as supporting these right wing Likudniks and could be seen as a sign you see all "Jews" as bad natured.

The most influential and effective voices standing up to the Israeli lobby are American jews.

Max Blumenthal, Glenn Greenwald, MJ Rosenburg, Noam Chomsky, etc.

Follow (subscribe to) the twitter feeds of these American journalists because they know what they are talking about.

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal

https://twitter.com/MJayRosenberg

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald

https://twitter.com/daily_chomsky