A Nation In Moral Decay: What Liberalism Is Doing To Our Nations Youth (legal, violent crime)

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

the answer to this is simple, small towns. You cant buy a condom or birth control without the person at the register blabbing to everyone about "Mr. And Mrs. John Doe's kid just came in here and bought a condom". Mom and Dad know about it before the kid is um....."finished".

There are plenty of big cities in the south, and they too have high rates of teen pregnancy... so while your reasoning might play some role, I think it's also a case of "tell 'em what to do and hope they listen," as opposed to arming them with practical information & resources. When you go the route of abstinence-only education, for example, the results are usually teens doing it anyway but without knowledge and protection. Fact.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Hot_Handz

Liberalism is not a political system.

Liberalism is a way of life, how you treat people and how you want to be treated, just as conservationism. Life in and of itself is political, so yes it is.

now for you to answer the question,what exactly makes you think it was liberalism ?

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by gizmo980

There are plenty of big cities in the south, and they too have high rates of teen pregnancy... so while your reasoning might play some role, I think it's also a case of "tell 'em what to do and hope they listen," as opposed to arming them with practical information & resources. When you go the route of abstinence-only education, for example, the results are usually teens doing it anyway but without knowledge and protection. Fact.

I completely agree with you, i was just pointing out one of the reasons i had personally seen back in high school.

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by Felix C

Yes but the crazy responses came from the other side.

1. How do you know the political leaning of every poster on here? I don't even know that about everyone who's responded, and I'm a former moderator with 6+ years on the forum.

2. What responses have seemed "crazy" to you? All I've seen is people saying this is typical teenager-like behavior, and I'm not sure how you can deny that! They weren't even shown drinking alcohol (just noticed some sodas & water bottles), for goodness sakes.

Interesting a similar video was posted on a high performance car forum I frequent. Typically young males aged 21-38 are the readership. The response was unanimous that this type of attitude would produce nothing but sluts.(the focus obviously was on the females) Society going to the dogs.etc.etc And these are typical young, hornball, Type A males like I was before being married.

You know, if you can recollect your early years.(Fortunately, I can mine fairly well) One realizes that the brain at that age is a sponge and absorbs and retains everything. One item being how to act like an adult. So we emulate adults-both the positive and negative aspects without fully realizing what we are doing as we are not living an adult world for work/bills/responsiblity/relationships/laws etc. Have not even mentioned the effects puberty has on how we function in among societal contacts and especially the opposite sex. Well, I am not psychologist. I am only going by experience. Which was the infinitely less complex Pre-computer porn, pre-sexting, pre-computer game violence, pre-500 channel tv,etc. You see what I refer to.

I remember my teen years just fine, thanks... with the exception of maybe a couple of Grateful Dead shows, LOL.

But I'm not sure how you're getting all of this from a photo montage, when you have NO idea how these kids were raised, how they behave, or even how well they do in school/work. I highly doubt they're all "emulating their parents' behavior," since I know that wasn't the case when I was a teen. My parents never did drugs, rarely drank/drink alcohol, never smoked cigarettes, and didn't have sex until they were married; yet I did all of the above and then some. Since you seem to enjoy playing armchair psychologist, I'm curious to know how you explain these discrepancies from my life? And don't just say there are exceptions to every rule, because this story is actually typical of many kids I knew (not to mention the old - but true - stereotypes about crazy Catholic-school kids).

Bottom line, you and a few others here are WAAAAY over-analyzing these photos, and drawing assumptions that have absolutely no base in reality or actual knowledge. You're also over-dramatizing them, when all I can see are kids dancing and smiling/posing for the camera. What is so immoral about that? Seriously, I'm still not seeing what you apparently are!

Teach them properly and stays with them all their lives. Teach them poorly or none at all and who know what they regroup on later in life.

Now this is something I do agree with, and it's what I credit for getting me through those years without any real damage. When I think back to my group of friends in high school, about half of us were "raised right" while the other half were not... we all did pretty much the same things together (partying etc), but those of us from good homes came out mostly unscathed. Why? Because we were smart enough and well-informed enough to draw certain lines, like not having unprotected sex or driving home after getting drunk. So while good parenting doesn't ensure your kids will be angels, it does increase your chances they'll get through any rough years okay.

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

I completely agree with you, i was just pointing out one of the reasons i had personally seen back in high school.

Yeah, and I can see how that would play a role... I've lived in a couple of small towns (not southern), and it was much harder to maintain any level of privacy. But we also can't ignore the obvious facts, regarding abstinence-only "education" and other such ideas you'll find in the Bible Belt.

[Hot_Handz]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

Liberalism is a way of life, how you treat people and how you want to be treated, just as conservationism. Life in and of itself is political, so yes it is.

now for you to answer the question,what exactly makes you think it was liberalism ?

You aren't born into politics anymore than you are born into culture. They are prescribed to you.

Liberalism and Conservatism are just the group think title given to value systems. And those values do not have to be all inclusive. Only if you choose to associate them with a political system like a Democracy.

Life in and of itself is preferential....politics are just a means to actualize those preferences.

The OP was just applying the value and group think of YOLO that so many modern day Liberals seem to cling to. That's it.

[stargazzer]

what a drag

[C. Maurio]

Originally Posted by Old Army Soldier

And obviously to the parents who are raising these kids. I was shocked at these photos of kids in what you call a 'All Ages Club'. I had never heard of one of these clubs before but I would hope you would agree that what these kids are doing is appalling and over the top. I blame this on liberalism that has created a society lacking in moral values. Those (and you know what type people they are) who run the media in Hollywood who have saturated the airwaves with filth are to blame as well.

Shocking Photos. These kids have no decency and honor.

The 30 Most Awkward Photos From All Ages Clubs

I just wonder why they are messing around in a horse stall. If anybody should be upset about it, it should be the wonderful Mr Ed. He probably wants back in his house!

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Hot_Handz

You aren't born into politics anymore than you are born into culture. They are prescribed to you.

Liberalism and Conservatism are just the group think title given to value systems. And those values do not have to be all inclusive. Only if you choose to associate them with a political system like a Democracy.

Life in and of itself is preferential....politics are just a means to actualize those preferences.

The OP was just applying the value and group think of YOLO that so many modern day Liberals seem to cling to. That's it.

not being born into something has nothing to do with whether it is a way of life or not. calling something group think still does not mean it isnt a way of life. No, the do not have to be all inclusive, but that still doesnt say they arent a way of life.

"politics are just a means to actualize those preferences "... meaning politics is a way of life, just placing it into how you govern. not sure what you were trying to do by posting this.

YOLO is by far one of the stupidest saying in the world, I have seen many conservatives who believe in that BS. So people of all backgrounds cling to stupidity, stop trying to make it sound like only one side does it.

[Hot_Handz]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

not being born into something has nothing to do with whether it is a way of life or not. calling something group think still does not mean it isnt a way of life. No, the do not have to be all inclusive, but that still doesnt say they arent a way of life.

group think is just a way to divide...it's much easier to gain the publics consent when you serve that preference. Ideals come first..politics come after. The fact is that both parties, at the civilian level, have much more in common with each other than the interests of those, supposedly, serving them.

"politics are just a means to actualize those preferences "... meaning politics is a way of life, just placing it into how you govern. not sure what you were trying to do by posting this.

Ok, so I will cede to your point....

Liberalism is a set of ideals, politics is a way of placing those ideals into a position of control and without government, there is no control.

So are we arguing that government is necessary to manifest our ideals or simply that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon? If you are simply stating that it's a naturally occurring phenomenon... well, so is sh*t.

YOLO is by far one of the stupidest saying in the world, I have seen many conservatives who believe in that BS. So people of all backgrounds cling to stupidity, stop trying to make it sound like only one side does it.

Humans have allowed themselves to be pigeonholed. Left and Right. Americans have subscribed to partisanship willingly....The democratic process RELIES on generalizations!