A Nation In Moral Decay: What Liberalism Is Doing To Our Nations Youth (ideology, school)

[MOKAN]

I'd wager that kids have always acted like this when unsupervised, when outside of their parents influence. I certainly remember when I was that age.

[MOKAN]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

If they were holding assault weapons the OP would love it.

Mokan, every thread this OP starts is blaming liberals.

I suppose if we stay on topic instead of creating a huge fight that's off topic he'll get bored and stop making new threads.

[chielgirl]

Originally Posted by MOKAN

I suppose if we stay on topic instead of creating a huge fight that's off topic he'll get bored and stop making new threads.

Hasn't worked so far.
His entire schtick is anti-liberal bs, he'll bring it back to that.

[hooka]

Its always the end of the world, its always these are the worst times in generations. Waaaaaa. The good old days were not good and the 50s myth never happened. Women were treated as second class citizens and so were many minority's. It never existed. There are 7 billion people on the planet, I think screwing is happening a lot.

[It'sAutomatic]

Originally Posted by Old Army Soldier

I blame this on liberalism that has created a society lacking in moral values.

I take issue with your word "created". Who exactly is disseminating this "liberalism" and causing widespread moral decay in our society? Can you describe this mechanism you're proposing here and who is behind this deliberately constructed liberalism mentality?

[simetime]

[quote=MOKAN;27541900]I don't think this thread has anything to do with the political leanings of the parents. It's about our society and the waves of political attitudes that have shaped it into what it is today. Right or wrong, I don't know. But that's what I see as the topic.

If we wanna guess the political leanings of the parents, I would say: live and let live. These kids appear to be the products of confident adults. And most confident people seem to be 'live and let live', from my experience. Their parents could be conservative or liberal, or both. Many folks are fiscally conservative, socially liberal.


Ok, that being said why does the OP blame liberals? He does not have a clue about anyone in the pictures except that he does not like what he sees.

[TheEternalSanctuaryMan]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

Sure they are. They have higher SAT scores, the have a higher standard of living, higher rates of health insurance.

You're just jealous and have the nerve to lecture Blue States about morals.

BTW, Red states have more divorce, and porn purchases.

Also, you take more in from Federal Spending than you give back in taxes. So you are deadbeats as well.

and...

Originally Posted by padcrasher

There isn't any measure of human development where liberal countries don't beat the pants of Red states. The have less crime, less violence, less corruption, treat their sick and elderly more humanely.

Of course none of this matters to you because you're a religious prude that gets a ego boost for wagging your finger at kids expressing their sexuality.

With dumbed-down tests that's easy enough and just what is a 'liberal' county, one without regulation or legislation? And these trite Primary Colors/WoW analogies are tedious. Cities are 'blue' because they have more numbers that need bolstering from government teats, no other reason, and they are centers of culture & production traditionally, which is how they get so large.

How would you eat if all those rural 'hand-outs' were withdrawn? Or for that matter, how would the 100+ countries that receive food directly as a result of those 'hand-outs' eat? And all of Mr. Carter's wasted ethanol!

How many studies are biased, finagled or out-right fraudulent lies based in proving an efficacy for funding and further expansion? Quite alot, especially in inner-city 'liberal' bastions where everything data-based is suspect when it comes to appointed civic monies. Crime may be low but that is because of all the surveillance and the lack of reportage. No one wants undue attention if they are to maintain a superior statistical set (but they'll moan about incarceration rates when convenient).

Yes, and 'liberal' places seem to find solace that girls new to puberty can get an abortion without parental notification, as so many seem eager to adopt legislation to make that an option. Where are the parents? Gliding around that toy store granting the media & school programs the right to inform their progeny about responsible choices... for when they get to play grow up and go window-shopping.

Also, easing the religious-minded into a casted role as a secularized satan is just as charmingly romantic & smugly 'faith-based' as a traditionally uptight monotheist is.

>Interesting.... children expressing their sexuality... the liberal 'progressive' mind utters the chilling off-note...

Originally Posted by Old Army Soldier

What generation of kids are shooting up these schools in the last 15 years or so?

The latch-key children of ignorant Boomers so busy being sophisticated & wordly that they forgot their lazily-conceived child hadn't been aborted is my guess. Parental responsibility is difficult as gliding around the toy store all day never gets dull...

Originally Posted by DeafChick

And if you did a little bit more research, you would realize those photos are kids from NEW ZEALAND and CANADA.

Bastions of liberal 'progressive' ideology. Not exactly shoring up the team...

Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy

I don't know a single liberal who wouldn't be creeped out by that photo. I don't think liberals have a thing to do with it. This is not about a loosening of morals. It is about the commercialization of sex to children. It is about money, pure and simple.

No problems... 'Children expressing their sexuality' is all good if one doesn't want to be a prudish moralist toward budding, impressionable & inexperienced adolescence. Going about making for absolute certainty that sensible behaviour isn't pushing up against someone's pelvis on-camera at such an age should have been part of the school indoctrination or included informatively in many a cartoon script aired on Nickolodeon- where this responsibility has been delegated to by far too many.

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Liberal 'progressives' and their 'have-it-all' consumerist desires aren't entirely to blame. Face it: American values just don't leave enough time to be an involved parent nowadays. That's what happens when what has been created is an entire generation that refuses to grow up and age because they equate such an ordinarily natural occurence with an automatic accrual of a stodgy religious-oriented mentality. Thank you Public Education! and you too, Media! you crafted us well and honing our skills with so much homework based on fictitious realities broadcast as enviable life'styles' has given us a sense of true comraderie, resplendent with pretty things and a sense of empowerment! So let's leave it up to the children to decide what they are, who to be- they know "it's all good" as they know nothing else!

Puritanical theistic control-sets no longer function as they used to: Certain beneficial cultures have adapted and are moving on. People are tired of taking on the burden of Original Guilt. This is not a horrible thing in & of itself- but there is a chasm requiring a sturdy bridge PDQ. No joke.

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Oh, falling into freedom with freedom! How long does a young unhoned mind go on like that & stay afloat before there's no recognizable signposts & the unrestrained young find they are free to judge and act upon feelings discovered without unguided ethics, without foundational rule sets?

Until they reach Columbine?
Newtown?
Oregonian shopping malls?
Coloradan movie theaters?

How long does this list get before the spiritually lackadaisical realize they are missing something fundamental in their cherished classroom theoretical textbooks? Until they return to a bible to renew what they formerly eschewed or create something just as inhumane thru political legislation/regulation favoring those who crafted them into what they are: uninvolved, self-absorbed, blameful & impersonal redistributors of responsibility?

From wikipedia (totally unreliable site, but this definiton is good):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blame

'As a propaganda technique

Blame is closely associated with labeling theory, in that when intentional actors act out to continuously blame an individual for nonexistent psychological traits, and for nonexistent variables, the actors aim to induce irrational guilt at an unconscious level. It is a propaganda tactic, to use repetitive blaming behaviors, innuendos, and hyperbole in order to assign negative status to normative humans. When innocent people are blamed fraudulently for nonexistent psychological states and nonexistent behaviors, and there is no qualifying deviance for the blaming behaviors, the intention is to create a negative valuation of innocent humans to induce fear, by using fear mongering. Blaming in the form of demonization has been used by governments for centuries to influence public perceptions of various other governments, to induce feelings of nationalism in the public. Blame can be utilized to objectify people, groups, and nations, which can typically negatively influence the intended subjects of propaganda, compromising their objectivity. Blame is utilized as a social control technique.'


There is something terribly wrong when so many people cannot see what it is that has been done to them and how they give authority over to those who consciously use them for their own ends. People from whatever spectrum of our modern American socio-political drama of dueling ideologies need to get over practicing this madness- or face devolution. And worse.

Freedom is never free and golden threads don't break easily.

[kidkaos2]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

Sure they are. They have higher SAT scores, the have a higher standard of living, higher rates of health insurance.

You're just jealous and have the nerve to lecture Blue States about morals.

BTW, Red states have more divorce, and porn purchases.

Also, you take more in from Federal Spending than you give back in taxes. So you are deadbeats as well.

Thanks for that demonstration of enlightened liberal compassion, tolerance, and inclusiveness.

[kidkaos2]

Originally Posted by It'sAutomatic

I take issue with your word "created". Who exactly is disseminating this "liberalism" and causing widespread moral decay in our society? Can you describe this mechanism you're proposing here and who is behind this deliberately constructed liberalism mentality?

Sure. The Frankfurt School is behind it and the mechanism is cultural marxism/critical theory. It is the idea of encouraging people to identify along the lines of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc and then setting these identity groups against one another to cause a breakdown in communities so that society can be restructured along socialist lines. The inevitable result of capitalism was supposed to be the workers rising up against the privileged elite. Unfortunately, capitalism in the industrialized nations caused a rise in the standard of living for all people and not just the elite so the expected upheaval never happened. Since divisions along economic lines didn't work, the leftists changed tactics to divide society along cultural lines instead.

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by kidkaos2

Thanks for that demonstration of enlightened liberal compassion, tolerance, and inclusiveness.

Sorry, you start a thread with this title, you are going to get it with both barrels. You might have some credibility if you admonished the right winger that started this thread attacking liberals but your a partisan as well.