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I am simply saying it would not bother me if I had to register my guns, and I have been asking why it should bother anyone, but no one has been able to answer.
That question has been answered dozens of time by dozens of people over the last couple of weeks.
Historically around the world confiscation has followed registration every time. There is no reason to expect it would be different in the US, especially when one party clearly wants to ban them. Once all the gun guns are (in theory) registered all it would take is a bad election cycle that puts the wrong party in control and confiscation will follow.
I bet that what they want as registration isn't what you say you have done in Florida. I just have to hope that enough people in Congress keep their wits about them to keep things like that from passing.
Historically around the world confiscation has followed registration every time. There is no reason to expect it would be different in the US, especially when one party clearly wants to ban them. Once all the gun guns are (in theory) registered all it would take is a bad election cycle that puts the wrong party in control and confiscation will follow.
Well, that is simply not true. There are dozens of countries where people register their guns, but they have not been banned, Swizerland for example.
I sign that form because it is required and no other kind of registration should be needed since my government has a copy of that form about each and every one of them. You are right that it is not a form of registration but what else do they need to find me and my guns?
That's all they would need, but no one has come asking for mine yet.
I was suprised to hear you say that your guns were "registered." In my state (WA) we do not register guns. The 4473 is supposed to be a background check, not a registration. That's why the law requires that NICS check (backrground check when you buy a gun) records are destroyed after, IIRC, 90 days.
I suspect that your guns are in fact not "registered," I don't know anything about FL law though--never have set foot in the state of FL.
Why do you think I clarified it yesterday, and then again today.
I said: "I don't know what constitutes "registeration", but every time I buy a new firearm, they take down the serial number, and call in for a background check. I call it "registeration" since the serial number is stored somewhere and associated with my name. Why should it bother me? I am a law abiding citizen, and have no criminal plans for my guns"
If you want to call the process of storing the serial numbers in a database, associated with your name something other that "registeration", then you can call it something else.
Well, that is simply not true. There are dozens of countries where people register their guns, but they have not been banned, Swizerland for example.
YEs, please, lets be EXACTLY like Switzerland....
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The neutral country has a tradition of a gun in every closet, and ranks amongst the highest levels of gun ownership in the world — with estimate of as many as 4.5 million guns in a country of just 7.9 million people (few countries have more guns per capita — the US and Yemen are two).
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However, gun related crime is remarkably low, with only 24 gun murders in 2009
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That question has been answered dozens of time by dozens of people over the last couple of weeks.
Historically around the world confiscation has followed registration every time. There is no reason to expect it would be different in the US, especially when one party clearly wants to ban them. Once all the gun guns are (in theory) registered all it would take is a bad election cycle that puts the wrong party in control and confiscation will follow.
This has already been clearly demonstrated in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia....
Do some research on The Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989
Their laws are stricter than you think. Much stricter than what Feinstain is suggesting. For example those rifles they keep at home is cool, but people forget to mention they are not issued bullets for them. Also, concealed carry is practically impossible in Switzerland.
Why do you think I clarified it yesterday, and then again today.
I said: "I don't know what constitutes "registeration", but every time I buy a new firearm, they take down the serial number, and call in for a background check. I call it "registeration" since the serial number is stored somewhere and associated with my name. Why should it bother me? I am a law abiding citizen, and have no criminal plans for my guns"
If you want to call the process of storing the serial numbers in a database, associated with your name something other that "registeration", then you can call it something else.
Point taken. It appears to be de facto registration. When I read the ins and outs of the 4473 my eyes start to glaze over. Gun control groups insist that traces are being thwarted, while the NRA insists that legitimate traces are no problem. Over the years I've made sure to aquire a few guns that are 'off paper' just in case. These were purchased via private sale with no 4473 involved. I've got a NAA pocket gun, Ruger .22, a Glock 31, and AR, and the all-important M1A, all off-paper.
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