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Old 12-31-2012, 01:39 AM
 
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Here's a question I've been asking 100 times on another current thread.

Now, if wages are so low at places like Macdonald's and WallMart that workers there need food stamps, then isn't this one big problem?

why should the taxpayer foot the wage bill?
why should the companies be allowed to pay so low?
what is the purpose of this system?

how about just a decent wage but no food stamps, make coming off welfare pay, surely this is the right solution?
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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How can the same economists in charge of trillions not understand basic Econ 101?

They know they push wages down with these programs.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:49 AM
 
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ok, so they want the wages down and will accept Welfare levels to go up.

but won't they make a massive savings but cutting the welfare bill even if it means pushing wages up slightly?

and still, why should the taxpayer foot the bill?
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:55 AM
 
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How can the same economists in charge of trillions not understand basic Econ 101?

They know they push wages down with these programs.

I am entirely too cynical to believe wages would increase if these programs disappeared.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:58 AM
 
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Here's a question I've been asking 100 times on another current thread.

Now, if wages are so low at places like Macdonald's and WallMart that workers there need food stamps, then isn't this one big problem?

why should the taxpayer foot the wage bill?
why should the companies be allowed to pay so low?
what is the purpose of this system?

how about just a decent wage but no food stamps, make coming off welfare pay, surely this is the right solution?
Nobody deserves a certain wage. If what you're doing requires no skill whatsoever, then why should you get a high wage for it? If you're providing a service that only a handful of people can do, such as bain surgery, then you will get paid a lot of money for your time and energy. If you're providing a service that five billion other people can do, such as punching keys on a cash register, then you aren't going to paid a lot of money for doing it. Supply and demand. It is not an employer's responsibility to see to it that an employee has a decent home, food, and utilities. An employer has a job that needs to be done, and is willing to pay a certain amount of money to get it done. If you're willing to perform that job for the offered wage, then you do it. If you're not, then you don't accept employment there. If nobody is willing to do it for the offered compensation, then the employer will be forced to raise the offer until someone is willing to do it. That's how an economy does and should work.
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:08 AM
 
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so why should the taxpayer be expected to make up the wages to a 'more acceptable level'?
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I am entirely too cynical to believe wages would increase if these programs disappeared.




I can't remember ever seeing a fast food worker that didn't have an *** at least two axe handles wide.

How about we get a milk crate for the welfare office to use as a go/no-go gage.

If your big fat *** doesn't fit in a standard sized milk crate, you get no food stamps until it does.
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:36 AM
 
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I can't see why they should be getting any food stamps at all?

and who knows the UK system , I believe they have something called 'Working Family Tax Credit' - is that the same?

it's just so ridiculous.

make work pay, then people won't want to be on Welfare (the majority of them anyway).
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You've asked it 100 times and it's been explained 600 times.
Do you not read or just can't you comprehend what you do read?
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:47 AM
 
Location: California
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Maybe people are just living too large and need to scale back to live within their means. IE: if the best you can do is working the drive thru at McDonalds then don't move out of your parents house until you can do better.
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