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Old 01-05-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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Walmart is not about to provide anyone with free financial counseling. They don't do anything for free. This isn't a spending problem by anyone other than Walmart, a rich corporation, refusing to pay their workers enough so they can feed themselves.
There is no reason for Walmart to pay someone enough to feed themselves. Walmart is a business. They are not a charity and this is not a communist country. It's beyond me where you get the idea that a business becomes responsible for the food and housing of someone when they offer them a job.

If a job does not pay enough that the time you spend working there will compensate you enough to take care of your needs, then that isn't the job for you. If there are no jobs that will pay you what you need, then you need to improve your skills so you are qualified for a better paying job.

What you're talking is pure communist "from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs" nonsense.

It's YOUR responsibility to take care of yourself. It is not Walmart's responsibility to take care of you.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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Default How are companies allowed to pay such low wages that their workers need Food Stamps?

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TexasReb;27627200]That part about "obligations" and "shared humanity" is fine. I would agree on many levels

But how about letting me be the one to decide where and who me money goes to? And you be the one who decides where and who yours goes to?

And of course, there is that silly-arsed false dilema always presented that if we don't let government control things, then we must be in favor of letting children starve to death. Geez... [/b]

How much money of your own do you donate to feed starving kids? I mean directly to charitable organizations, not allowing a government buracracy to do it for you? Which will and always has and will, natural, mean paying those who redistribute it, a salary of their own where they would have a vested interest in seeing that the problem always remain? I mean, if someone is paid, say, $50,000 a year by the government, to administer entitlement programs, such as food stamps or whatever, do you think it would be in their personal best interest to actually kill the golden goose that pays their salary? Hell no. Their best interest is served by more and more people being dependent upon government.

So who do you trust with this control of your money? Individuals to give freely as they choose? Or government to decide on your behalf...and make a damn good living of their own, doing so?


Good post, but most of these fools you are talking to are too stupid to understand plain economics...
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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Default How are companies allowed to pay such low wages that their workers need Food Stamps?

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Walmart is not about to provide anyone with free financial counseling. They don't do anything for free. This isn't a spending problem by anyone other than Walmart, a rich corporation, refusing to pay their workers enough so they can feed themselves.
If you want to live under communist rule you need to move to a communist country instead of trying to change how a capitalist country works. Either that or while you are finishing high school take a class on economics. Whether you know it or not the owners of any company or corporation can pay the wages they wish as long as those wages meet the minimum wage laws. Wake up! If you can't make a living on the wages you get, get another job...
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Some of you bleeding heart people need to venture into those poor neighborhoods.
Not all but a good number drive cars better than you have, wear logo clothing, have better phones than you do and are on food stamps.

Is this what America is turning into ?
I believe that's a rhetorical question.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:44 PM
 
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What is it about you that you can't accept the fact that many working people don't have an extra dime after their basic expenses are paid for? What, is Walmart going to teach them how to get their food at food banks, their clothing at thrift stores and how to deal with the landlord to reduce rent?
What is it about you that you can't accept the fact that MOST people start out in entry level jobs?

The problem with many is that they over spend.

That's not your employers problem.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by ellemint View Post
Walmart is not about to provide anyone with free financial counseling. They don't do anything for free. This isn't a spending problem by anyone other than Walmart, a rich corporation, refusing to pay their workers enough so they can feed themselves.
If it's that bad, people shouldn't work there.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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As long as you're ok subsidizing their profits.

I'm not OK with subsidizing their profits. We should end all welfare. Problem solved.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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When Walmart gets breaks in state and local taxes then if I live in that state I, as a taxpayer, am subsidizing Walmart. If Walmart employees are forced to rely on Food stamps then, once again, the taxpayer is subsidizing the Waltons.
1. End all food stamps.

2. End tax breaks for all companies.

3. Problem solved.

And by the way, nobody is "forced to rely on food stamps".
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Some of you bleeding heart people need to venture into those poor neighborhoods.
Not all but a good number drive cars better than you have, wear logo clothing, have better phones than you do and are on food stamps.

Is this what America is turning into ?
Unfortunately, it is. Hopefully, no one will take you up on your suggestion, because if they try this in Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, or a zillion other "urban" locations, they won't come back out alive.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:26 PM
 
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for sure it is because these children have not earned their money.

They are collecting a form of welfare and are just as idle as the intentionally unemployed.
If the money spent for the children to be idle isn't public monies then it's none of our business.

The Walton family can do whatever it darn well pleases with their own money.
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