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Apparently President Obama hurt the feelings Republican House members during his "fiscal cliff" press conference leading some to say that his remarks about Congress threaten to scuttle the deal. Eric Cantor's spokesperson Erica Elliott twittered, "So...I'm confused...does POTUS want a deal or not? Because all those jabs at Congress certainly sounded like a smack in the face to me,"
So...Erica...I too am confused...is your pride more important than doing the job that Congress and especially the House supposed to do? What's more important, your freaking pride or doing what's best for the country?
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC
Is it pride or principle? ...the principle that we must spend less than we take in?
Do people on the left even understand that Obama wasn't willing to talk about ANY spending cuts as part of this deal? He wants to use the additional money brought into government coffers for MORE spending!
Is that what the left really thinks is "best for the country"??
Do people on the left even understand that Obama wasn't willing to talk about ANY spending cuts as part of this deal? He wants to use the additional money brought into government coffers for MORE spending!
Is that what the left really thinks is "best for the country"??
Prove that: do you specifics, or a source for that claim?
What Obama wants is not best for the country. Therefore in resisting him the GOP is doing what is best for the country.
That's your opinion and actually a majority of Americans disagree with you. Either way, if what GOP is doing is best for the country, are you going to feel that way if their stubbornness causes the market to sink? If another recession starts? If America's credit rating gets downgraded? I bet you'll blame Obama for that though even though it's the GOP's fault nothing is getting passed.
As I said on another thread I firmly believe this crisis was staged to allow our elected reps to pass a budget that effective changes very little. Both sides get to keep wasting money. DC has become a soap operah.
There will be many posters on here that agree with what the GOP is doing because they suffer from the same issues with pride as their elected officials. When people can look into the mirror everyday knowing they're putting theology over progress we have a real problem in Washington.
Only the Sith deal in absolutes...
I agree and you might want to also address this to you and the other Dem lovers.
It is politically beneficial for Democrats if there is no deal, and our economy goes into deep recession in the coming months. In 2014, the blame will go to Republicans which could allow the Democrats to take a super-majority in the House and Senate.
And then if they bungle their majority like they did in 2009, perhaps they will lose it all in 2016 just like they did in 2010.
I'm hoping things will be different in 2016. I think by that time the "blame Republicans" strategy will be pretty well used up. At some point you actually have to run on what you've accomplished. Even His Majesty FDR eventually started losing support as the depression dragged on and on and his policies were doing no good before WWII revived his presidency.
At this point the Democrats don't have a star to replace Obama next time. This last election was Obama vs Republicans. It wasn't really Democrats vs Republicans, as in the House and Senate the Democrats made only slight gains. Nor was it Obama vs Romney, as Romney had no real star power even amongst conservatives. Romney was not Reagan. Obama ran on the strength of being Obama. He presented no clear strategy for the future and was not elected with any particular mandate. He was simply elected because people liked him more than the other guys. But he can't run again. Some other guy is going to have to run on Obama's record, which Obama himself didn't want to run on in 2012.
Apparently President Obama hurt the feelings Republican House members during his "fiscal cliff" press conference leading some to say that his remarks about Congress threaten to scuttle the deal. Eric Cantor's spokesperson Erica Elliott twittered, "So...I'm confused...does POTUS want a deal or not? Because all those jabs at Congress certainly sounded like a smack in the face to me,"
So...Erica...I too am confused...is your pride more important than doing the job that Congress and especially the House supposed to do? What's more important, your freaking pride or doing what's best for the country?
so when taxing the rich doesnt pan out and doesnt bring in enough money, will the dems say that we now need to tax everyone more that makes more than 30k?
Apparently President Obama hurt the feelings Republican House members during his "fiscal cliff" press conference leading some to say that his remarks about Congress threaten to scuttle the deal. Eric Cantor's spokesperson Erica Elliott twittered, "So...I'm confused...does POTUS want a deal or not? Because all those jabs at Congress certainly sounded like a smack in the face to me,"
So...Erica...I too am confused...is your pride more important than doing the job that Congress and especially the House supposed to do? What's more important, your freaking pride or doing what's best for the country?
At this point the Democrats don't have a star to replace Obama next time. This last election was Obama vs Republicans..
Wrong. 2016 will be 2012 on steroids, 2008 on steroids squared.
It is now the Democratic nominee with the wind at his/her back via demographics, vs a GOP ready for 1984 88% white electorate America. But the 1984 ship has already left, and now the GOP needs to learn to deal with a 70% at most white electorate.
Obama's personality popularity may have added 1 or 2 states vs other Dems, but at 332 electoral, they have more states to spare.
GOP vs changing America. That is the new normal.
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