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Old 01-04-2013, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Actually, your vitriol is what has turned off moderate Republicans and is why Republicans are losing national elections -- they fail to appeal to moderates.

In a prior era, Democrats and Republicans agreed on basic values and could cooperate across party lines. Today's GOP has as its fundamental goal of rolling back the New Deal and the Great Society. It's difficult to imagine that today's extreme right-wing GOP base is the same Party that elected Eisenhower, who said:
Agree on basic values like home ownership? How'd that work out?

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Now, what Ike called "negligible and stupid" is the GOP base and will, as he said, disappear from political history.
Our war mongering policy, that both parties love, which keeps us in never ending foreign wars and which caused 9/11, isn't negligible and stupid?

Are the thousands of innocent men, women, and children killed in Pakistan by Obamas drones negligible and stupid?

I hope Obama lives forever and everything he loves, dies tomorrow. Maybe then he'll understand.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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At one time we had four generations living in the same house. We called it FAMILY.
Most people in the US only do that out of necessity. We tend to want our own houses here.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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this epic fail thread is still going HAHA
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Agree on basic values like home ownership? How'd that work out?
Looks like pretty well:



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Our war mongering policy, that both parties love, which keeps us in never ending foreign wars and which caused 9/11, isn't negligible and stupid?

Are the thousands of innocent men, women, and children killed in Pakistan by Obamas drones negligible and stupid?

I hope Obama lives forever and everything he loves, dies tomorrow. Maybe then he'll understand.
Can't agree that this is both sides. The anti-war movement has for at least 60 years been a movement from the left, where the pro-war crowd has been from the right.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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so where did you run to may I ask? There comes a time when there are really no choices and that is where the Republicans found themselves this time around. Obama was re-elected, he held the cards..like it or not and many of us don't.


I walked gracefully, and with head held high, to "independent".



One of the reasons I left, is because, being an ideologue (conservative), rather than a partisan (Republican) I found my allegience to my ideology (conservatism) compromised by an allegience, albeit tenuous, to the GOP. I found myself defending "my" party (the GOP) more often-than-not, when they were in juxtaposition to my ideology. In other words, I had divided loyalty - mostly to my Conservatism, but some to the GOP, and one kept getting in the way of the other.



Now, I have no allegience to the GOP, only to my ideology (conservatism), and no longer divided between the two.



If the GOP wants my support, my vote, they must earn it by being conservative. If not, they won't get it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I walked gracefully, and with head held high, to "independent".



One of the reasons I left, is because, being an ideologue (conservative), rather than a partisan (Republican) I found my allegience to my ideology (conservatism) compromised by an allegience, albeit tenuous, to the GOP. I found myself defending "my" party (the GOP) more often-than-not, when they were in juxtaposition to my ideology. In other words, I had divided loyalty - mostly to my Conservatism, but some to the GOP, and one kept getting in the way of the other.



Now, I have no allegience to the GOP, only to my ideology (conservatism), and no longer divided between the two.



If the GOP wants my support, my vote, they must earn it by being conservative. If not, they won't get it.
You should pray to God so that he'll help keep the GOP together, just like this nation.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:14 AM
 
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I am in epic fail 101, it is called this epic fail of a thread. I swear, you kill me with laughter.
Well, in that case, I'll keep laughing at you.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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You should pray to God so that he'll help keep the GOP together, just like this nation.
Sorry, am agnostic - recognize there is no god - just myths and mythology.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Can't agree that this is both sides. The anti-war movement has for at least 60 years been a movement from the left, where the pro-war crowd has been from the right.
You seem to have left out the paleo-conservatives.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:18 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Sorry, am agnostic - recognize there is no god - just myths and mythology.
What happened to Jesus keeping this nation together?
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