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Old 01-04-2013, 01:04 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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This is beyond nutty. Civil marriage is the creation of joint legal (and partly financial) entity. It requires 2 consenting, rational beings.
Wasn't it you who claimed upthread that marriage is whatever civil law says it is? If the law tosses the consent requirement for marriage, then consent is not required for marriage. Right?

 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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This is beyond nutty. Civil marriage is the creation of joint legal (and partly financial) entity. It requires 2 consenting, rational beings.

But go ahead and talk to your #1 fan Harrier. He thinks grow men should be able to wed 12 year old girls.
A 12 year old isn't capable of being rational?

Where do you set the arbitrary cutoff age, hammertime?

I notice that you didn't link to that thread, probally becuase you don't want it to be known that I slammed you for not acknowledging the practice of arranged marriage in other nations, which of you seem to be intolerant.

You will also recall that in that thread, i told you about my classmate in high school in the Seattle area, whom in 1994, at the age of 16 married a man who was 30 years old, due to her Indian parents value of an arranged marriage.

Why are you so intolerant of other cultures and their practices?

Oh yes, it is because you are a liberal.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:10 AM
 
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Wasn't it you who claimed upthread that civil marriage is whatever civil law says it is? If the law tosses the consent requirement for marriage, then consent is not required for marriage. Right?
Yes. Civil marriage is a legal construct; it's defined solely by how it's written in civil law. That said, it has to comport with the Constitution. Non-consensual, forced marriages fail that on so many levels.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Wasn't it you who claimed upthread that marriage is whatever civil law says it is? If the law tosses the consent requirement for marriage, then consent is not required for marriage. Right?
Liberals hate having their own "medicine" thrown back in their face, because it always prove them and their nutty ideas to be WRONG.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Yes. Civil marriage is a legal construct; it's defined solely by how it's written in civil law. That said, it has to comport with the Constitution. Non-consensual, forced marriages fail that on so many levels.
Who ever mentinoned "non-consensual" and "forced" marriages but you?

Demonstrate to me how such marriages are being enforced?

You can't.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:21 AM
 
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Who ever mentinoned "non-consensual" and "forced" marriages but you?

Demonstrate to me how such marriages are being enforced?

You can't.
Can you not follow a simple conversation?

WP is saying that if we rewrite civil marriage to allow gay marriage, then there's nothing stopping us from rewriting civil marriage to get rid of the consent requirement (i.e. - rewriting civil marriage law to allow non-consensual marriages). It's a ridiculous slippery slope argument that fails to understand what civil marriage and how it works in our legal system.

And of course I can't demonstrate how non-consensual marriages are being enforced. I'm the one who's arguing they can't be in our system of governance.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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And of course I can't demonstrate how non-consensual marriages are being enforced.
Thank you.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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For what? Proving you have reading comprehension skills of a preteen.
No, for proving what i said - but that you cannot demonstrate how non-consensual marriages are being enforced - as you earlier asserted.

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And of course I can't demonstrate how non-consensual marriages are being enforced.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:29 AM
 
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No, for proving what i said - that you cannot demonstrate that nonconsensual marriages are being enforced - as you earlier asserted.
Keep digging that hole. I asserted no such thing.
 
Old 01-04-2013, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Keep digging that hole. I asserted no such thing.
Sure you did. I quoted you without any modification.

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Can you not follow a simple conversation?

WP is saying that if we rewrite civil marriage to allow gay marriage, then there's nothing stopping us from rewriting civil marriage to get rid of the consent requirement (i.e. - rewriting civil marriage law to allow non-consensual marriages). It's a ridiculous slippery slope argument that fails to understand what civil marriage and how it works in our legal system.

And of course I can't demonstrate how non-consensual marriages are being enforced. I'm the one who's arguing they can't be in our system of governance.


Why are liberals so apt to LIE?

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