Why same-sex "marriage" is a mortal threat to our civilization (best, country)
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I was wondering ... this is about HIV/AIDS which has nothing to do with legalized same-sex marriage, and technically off-topic ... whatever happened to that Magic Johnson guy? What was he ... a basketball player I think?
You did so write what Hammertime quoted you as saying, I read what you wrote and so did others. I do not see how you come up with the majority of HIV cases worldwide being with gay people. It is 75% worldwide among straight people. The majority of HIV in India is in straight people, the same in many countries. Stop trying to make this a gay disease. HIV is a human disease and any human can get it through unprotected sex, a blood transfusion; less likely now and through the use of intravenous drugs.
I never said that
go look at the stats and then talk.
in every single country men who have gay relations have disproportionate rates of AIDS. That is not up for debate I can give you stats for people who admit to having gay relations and people who got AIDS from gay relations and the later is always higher.
please explain to me why in Western Europe gays are slightly under 50% of all sexualy transmitted AIDS cases? The only way you can claim that AIDS in Western Europe is not uniquely connected to gays if you claim that gay men are almost half the population.
Fair enough - the article neglected to mention absolute vs relative rates. Fair to say absolute rates of heterosexual transmission is higher but relative rates among gays is higher - ten fold does not surprise. Do not neglect the context of the article though!!
Relative rates for hiv transmission within homosexual populations are typically always going to be much higher than heterosexual rates. Historical, biological, sociological and psychological factors are present which places the typical homosexual at much greater risk of contracting the disease. I will not dismiss this, however we have to recognize that absolute numbers do count and that this is simply a not just a homosexual driven disease. It is not.
Btw you stated overall rate which is absolute and not relative so that led me astray....
I didn't mean that to be funny or an attack. I just remember (perhaps incorrectly) Harrier posting within the last year or so about being an undergraduate college student considering law school and a career in law.
I didn't mean that to be funny or an attack. I just remember (perhaps incorrectly) Harrier posting within the last year or so about being an undergraduate college student considering law school and a career in law.
There is Marriage with a definition and then there is a second context of marriage by definition, which includes same sex partners...but the definition includes and explains that this marriage is only "like" that of the 1st meaning in the word.
Therefore there is no civil right for two of the same sex to be included in a marriage unless, the agreement is properly itemized and includes the proper definition of a Gay Marriage, which is only like the known civil marriage, and therefore requires additional legislation in order to call attention to the agreement which is like, a Marriage, but not the same as the known Marriage. The laws which were specifically formed for Marriage in its full meaning. If the laws were formed to include SSM they would have said so and included agreements that were also like the known Marriage, but it did not.
The poster asked for one country where HIV rates were higher amongst heterosexuals than homosexuals and I provided sources for an entire region. The poster decided to dismiss this as unreported homosexuality by virtue of the posters feeling. Extraordinary - when it is convenient the percentage of homosexuals is dumbed down within a population, concomittantly, when it is convenient for the opposing argument, the percentage of homosexuals is inflated!
Listen you clearly don't understand what I said.
facts
1. acording to the stats you provided 1.4% of all sexual transmitted AIDS cases (both men and woman) in that region were from male gay relations.
2. 42% of all AIDS cases were female.
3. it stands to reason that a decent percentage of woman AIDS cases were sexually transmitted making the overall gay/male aids ratio higher.
4. even if they were all men people it's very likely that less then 1.4% of all men in Eastern Europe would self identify as having gay relations.
5. If 3 and/or 4 are true then "gays" are more likely to get AIDS then "straights" in Russia
I thought you said you were engaged in chemistry and enjoyed math.....but we don't hear a peep out of you with all these stats and CDC reference's....hmmm
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