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Old 01-02-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I doubt it. You're talking about an elite group of people {politicians} and as long as they have their lobbyist friends, they could care less about average Americans.

Federal workers? yes, those people do need the raises they receive, they have living expenses just as ordinary everyday Americans have, they are the non-elites.

But we're discussing legislators here, aren't we clb10 ?
Oh, I'm aware that the political elites do not think the responsibility of their actions should apply to them, but it would be nice to see them actually suffer for their failures to live up to their oaths of office, instead of status quo.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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Fiscal cliff bill blocked this.

TITLE VIII—MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
Sec. 801. Strategic delivery systems.
Sec. 802. No cost of living adjustment in pay of members of congress.

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SEC. 802. NO COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT IN PAY OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no adjustment shall be made under section 601(a) of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946 (2 U.S.C. 31) (relating to cost of living adjustments for Members of Congress) during fiscal year 2013.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It looks like they are starting to run the government like a business...Rewarding failure at the top while the whole ship sinks.
Businesses fail when their leadership fails. If these politicians were each an NFL coach, with their record of failure, they would have been fired and forced to leave in disgrace years ago, instead they get re-elected.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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I think they should all be given free room and board ... with fine tailored orange jumpsuits, with their very own numbers printed across the shoulder area.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:21 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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I think Joe Biden certainly deserves a raise. By all accounts, after Obama and Boehner couldn't reach any agreement, the only way they finally avoided the ''fiscal cliff'' scenario, was through VP Biden wrangling with Mitch McConnell late into the night and pounding out a deal.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Oh, I'm aware that the political elites do not think the responsibility of their actions should apply to them, but it would be nice to see them actually suffer for their failures to live up to their oaths of office, instead of status quo.
People always say, well, just vote them out. Trouble is that the next one coming in is as bad as the one that's leaving.

People get into politics for money and personal gain, IMO, nothing more, or less.

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I think Joe Biden certainly deserves a raise. By all accounts, after Obama and Boehner couldn't reach any agreement, the only way they finally avoided the ''fiscal cliff'' scenario, was through VP Biden wrangling with Mitch McConnell late into the night and pounding out a deal.
Well, we know why that is don't we?
Boehner dislikes Reid, McConnell dislikes Obama, McConnell dislikes Reid, Reid probably dislikes both GOP reps.. None of them could get along in a locked room together, they'd probably all kill each other.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: NC
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Businesses fail when their leadership fails. If these politicians were each an NFL coach, with their record of failure, they would have been fired and forced to leave in disgrace years ago, instead they get re-elected.
Yes that doesn't change what I said. While Hostess was imploding the leadership was giving out millions in bonuses.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Well, we know why that is don't we?
Boehner dislikes Reid, McConnell dislikes Obama, McConnell dislikes Reid, Reid probably dislikes both GOP reps.. None of them could get along in a locked room together, they'd probably all kill each other.
I hear 'ya, and kinda reminds me of dealing with my ex-wife (though fortunately I still get along with my brother-in-law... lol)!

But I do appreciate 'ol ''foot-in-mouth'' Joe Biden, whose behind-the-scenes experience and age are too often under-rated, and IMO he actually represents the interests of blue-collar and middle-class folks way better than any of the GOP's ''working man'' posturing, or phony ''culture wars''.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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No absolutely not! If we're expected to tighten our belts, then they should as well.
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