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Yes, I'm aware that over a certain income, the benefit is reduced (Ours definitely will be this year). But still. The way I look at it, if others have write offs, why not us?
You haven't given a single reason this tax credit should exist. Why should you pay lower income taxes because you chose to have children?
because those children will be there to help take care of their parents when they are older and need help.The sorry ass people with no children will be supported by the government which those children pay Their taxes to.
because those children will be there to help take care of their parents when they are older and need help.The sorry ass people with no children will be supported by the government which those children pay Their taxes to.
There's no correlation between being child-less and relying on the government in retirement years. The sorry-ass people are the ones who live unproductive lives and are not able to set aside a nice nestegg to live off of. But it has nothing to do with having children or not.
Well the IRS is not doing a good job of "qualifying" these credits taken.
They estimate $4 billion has gone out in fraudulent refunds.
They've taken action against the obvious ones ($65,000 in child tax credit refunds to a single address) but admit there are problems because they don't require the child's SS be put on the form.
Ok, whoa there pardner. What does my honesty have to do with anything? You don't like my position, then fine. Doesn't really matter to me. But my honesty - my integrity - has nothing to do with this argument and really doesn't apply here.
As for my 'breeding' choices, I'm not a dog. I don't 'breed'. I'm not about to go into the whole "child-less" vs. "parents" circular argument here. It's just something that is a genuine waste of time and quite frankly, at some point in time I will be without dependents, and then we will join the rank and file who so-called pay for others as well. My taxes pay for a variety of people and things...there's not one person here who can be any more indignant than anyone else.
I was without children and now I have children. The point I was making in that post is that regardless of the deduction, I would have had my children anyway. But I feel no shame in taking the deduction, neither do I feel that it should be taken away unless ALL deductions are taken away, regardless of whatever it is. And if you take the deductions away (which hell, should also include the standard deduction), then there'd better be a good solution -- as in lowering the tax rate or that flat tax. I could agree on that.
Yes, it wasn't just your position - it was your comments that were dishonest - when you get a special tax credit, others pay for that.
You have what, 2 or 3 kids, that $18k per kid minimum. That's $36-48k you get on the backs of other taxpayers.
Times everyone else who chooses to breed at the taxpayer expense.
And yes, breeding is the proper term; sorry you don't like definitions.
because those children will be there to help take care of their parents when they are older and need help.The sorry ass people with no children will be supported by the government which those children pay Their taxes to.
Yes, it wasn't just your position - it was your comments that were dishonest - when you get a special tax credit, others pay for that.
You have what, 2 or 3 kids, that $18k per kid minimum. That's $36-48k you get on the backs of other taxpayers.
Times everyone else who chooses to breed at the taxpayer expense.
And yes, breeding is the proper term; sorry you don't like definitions.
Neither my position nor my comments reflected any dishonesty on my part. As for the 36,000 that I am supposed to be getting, that's news to me. It sure as heck isn't reflected on our tax return. I don't get any windfall checks in April. If you personally take no deductions whatsoever, then you can lecture me about whatever deductions that I take.
I know what the definition of "breeding" is. Breeding is usually a term used for non-humans. Or it's a derogatory, contemptuous term used by others to denigrate those who choose to become parents. In any event, if that makes the person feel good saying it, so be it. Whatever.
Like i said, I'm not getting into this circular breeder/childfree debate. it is what it is. there are things my taxes pay/have paid that I don't like..no one is special.
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