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Old 01-03-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by alphamale View Post
I don't "grovel".

I simply have no claim to their wealth, nor will I "beg" for it.

Once the government is allowed to take their wealth, where do they stop?

It's a matter of constitutional authority.
The nerve of the government to tax people, what kind of government taxes their own people. Seriously, name one country besides the US that has the nerve to tax its citizens??!! You can't!
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:04 PM
 
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It seems that in the US we had 200,000 new millionaires show up last year.
So 200,000 new millionaires. Must make you nuts that they became rich while Obama was in office.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Inwood
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A liberals idea of fair share would be to go back to Clinton era taxes, what's your idea for taxing the rich maybe Hoover era.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:06 PM
 
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Let me educate you.

Yes, we want to protect the money of the insanely rich, but NOT for their sake, for the economy's sake. YOu see, as long as they have it, it will be invested to make the economy grow, to make real progress and good things happen.

If you tax it away from the economy and down the black-hole of wastefull government, it is wasted, squandered.

Now you know the rest of the story.
That was disinformation. What a ridiculous fantasy.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:08 PM
 
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The issue isn't their money. It's our liberty.
No it isn't. Most of their money is from government forced monopoly and legalized confiscation.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:13 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I am not required to grovel at the feet of Obama and his minions, yet libs seem to love to grovel before them because they keep promising that they'll tax the rich into oblivion and disperse their riches amongst their supporters, the ultimate bait and switch.
Link to that promise? Or you talking about letting taxes go back to previous levels
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:15 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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It seems that in the US we had 200,000 new millionaires show up last year. I don't know how many of them made all that money because of the Ponzi Scheme you mention, but I bet not many of them did.

The Number Of Millionaire Households In America Grew By 200,000 Last Year - Business Insider
BUT BUT BUT how doez OBUMmER allow so manyz millioanirez to be created!?!?!?!

ObUmmer wants everyone to be dependent on gubment! He must have let those 200,000 individuals slip through his handZ!!!!

....seriously, you don't even see or comprehend how you contradict yourself so very often?
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:18 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by Robin Rossi View Post
Let me educate you.

Yes, we want to protect the money of the insanely rich, but NOT for their sake, for the economy's sake. YOu see, as long as they have it, it will be invested to make the economy grow, to make real progress and good things happen.

If you tax it away from the economy and down the black-hole of wastefull government, it is wasted, squandered.

Now you know the rest of the story.
I'm glad you cleared that up.... here I thought there had to be some sort of demand from a product or service.

It is amusing to me how you rail against being dependent on the government but have no problem being dependent on rich folks that you have no authority over.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:21 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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You guys care way too much about protecting the money of the insanely rich.
Isn't it their property?? Someone living in a shanty town would think you are insanely rich (maybe you actually are), but it's all relative. At what point does one's property become subject to confiscation for redistribution?

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The nerve of the government to tax people, what kind of government taxes their own people. Seriously, name one country besides the US that has the nerve to tax its citizens??!! You can't!
There's a difference between taxation and the taking of one's property to pass out to others. Note that the French court ruled excesss taxation as unfair:

In a stinging rebuke to one of Socialist Hollande’s flagship campaign promises, the constitutional council ruled Saturday that the way the highly contentious tax was designed was unconstitutional. It was intended to hit incomes over €1 million ($1.32 million).

How is taxing a select segment of our citizens different?
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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Just don't make any laws and see what happens to the billionaires. No sugar cartel, no ADM and Cargill subsidies, no government contracts , and no patent protection and most of all, no deeds or title to the ground giving exclusive right to use the space. No absentee ownership. Laws make the billionaires. No need to outlaw them at all. Just remove the laws that make them billionaires.
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