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Old 01-03-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: NC
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What you don't understand is that the top 2% have their wealth in assets and they are fine with raising taxes (Warren Buffett etc) because it keeps others from gaining the mobility to become wealthy. The wealthy always enjoy more barriers to competition for resources from the lower classes.

If we truly were serious about taxing people like Warren Buffett we would fix the Carried Interest Tax Loophole.

As it stands this increase screws the people considered wealthy based on Salary and not Assets. People like Surgeons etc.... They take the hit, not the top 2%.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:16 PM
 
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They damn sure shouldn't be paying 13%...Pay the rate they should be paying 35%-40.
LOL so you see nothing wrong with people giving a cumulative rate of more than half of what they earn to government?
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:16 PM
 
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They damn sure shouldn't be paying 13%...Pay the rate they should be paying 35%-40.
What middle class person pays anywhere near 28%? I am middle class and have never paid more than 10% in my life.

You DO realize your 'loopholes' are open to anyone, not just the wealthy, don't you?
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What you don't understand is that the top 2% have their wealth in assets and they are fine with raising taxes (Warren Buffett etc) because it keeps others from gaining the mobility to become wealthy. The wealthy always enjoy more barriers to competition for resources from the lower classes.

If we truly were serious about taxing people like Warren Buffett we would fix the Carried Interest Tax Loophole.

As it stands this increase screws the people considered wealthy based on Salary and not Assets. People like Surgeons etc.... They take the hit, not the top 2%.
Of course Warren Buffet is fine with raising taxes. He takes $100K as his income so he's exempt.
The rest have their money protected in Trust Funds so they are exempt as well.

One day you'll wake up and see that it's YOU that end up paying the tax.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:18 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Why were loopholes for the elite kept in the fiscal cliff bill ?
Why are they so special ?
What "loopholes" are you talking about?
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What you don't understand is that the top 2% have their wealth in assets and they are fine with raising taxes (Warren Buffett etc) because it keeps others from gaining the mobility to become wealthy. The wealthy always enjoy more barriers to competition for resources from the lower classes.

If we truly were serious about taxing people like Warren Buffett we would fix the Carried Interest Tax Loophole.

As it stands this increase screws the people considered wealthy based on Salary and not Assets. People like Surgeons etc.... They take the hit, not the top 2%.
Warren Buffett benefits from higher taxes because he can pay them easily while his competition cannot.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What "loopholes" are you talking about?
Ah..details, details. The MSM outlets didn't tell you all the news then did they ?

$70 billion of NEW tax loopholes my friend.


"Fiscal cliff" bill had some hidden pork - CBS News
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Ah..details, details. The MSM outlets didn't tell you all the news then did they ?

$70 billion of NEW tax loopholes my friend.


"Fiscal cliff" bill had some hidden pork - CBS News
Corporate fascism WIN!

Thanks Obama, you crafty corporate shill you.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:28 PM
 
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Thanks to loopholes, many of them don't pay the same percentage as middle income people.
Please list the loopholes that are ONLY available to the rich.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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I agree 100%!

Time to tax dividends, capital gains, and hedge fund pay like regular income.
Why do you hate old people? You do know that a lot of retirement income is derived from capital gains, right?

Hey, here's a thought: why don't we CUT SPENDING FIRST?
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