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The error is that the OP originally claimed more deaths from hammers than GUNS, not merely rifles - a dishonest claim pointed out quickly in the thread but you seem to have missed it.
But you and other posters trashed FOX.... who had the facts and the headlines correct.
The error is that the OP originally claimed more deaths from hammers than GUNS, not merely rifles - a dishonest claim pointed out quickly in the thread but you seem to have missed it.
Since some people either can't or won't take the time to simply click a link before arguing against the information provided therein, maybe we can get them to look at a picture instead:
It's sad that this is what it takes for people to debate honestly. I get that some people don't like Fox, and to that I say, "Whatever," but to debate against Fox when the source data is presented directly from the law enforcement agency itself is about as childish as it gets, and about the furthest from honesty that one can get.
It's truly sad that "debate" (if your definition is loose enough to actually call it that) has come down to picture books.
What the statistics show is you are not likely to use a rife or a shotgun to murder someone you will use a more appropriate firearm. One that is easily concealed, and designed to kill at close range and if need be equipped with a silenser-- the hand gun. In fact handguns like the Glock are semiautomatic and can have a high capacity clip (30 rounds or more). Note in the FBI table the handgun accounts for a more than an order of magnitude more murders than either the rifle, shotgun or hammer.
What the statistics show is you are not likely to use a rife or a shotgun to murder someone you will use a more appropriate firearm. One that is easily concealed, and designed to kill at close range and if need be equipped with a silenser-- the hand gun. In fact handguns like the Glock are semiautomatic and can have a high capacity clip (30 rounds or more). Note in the FBI table the handgun accounts for a more than an order of magnitude more murders than either the rifle, shotgun or hammer.
1) I'm not sure how you use a "clip" with a Glock.
2) Do you have any stats on how many suppressed (not "silenced") handguns are used in crimes?
3) Makes banning evil black rifles look like a pretty stupid idea, doesn't it?
1) I'm not sure how you use a "clip" with a Glock.
2) Do you have any stats on how many suppressed (not "silenced") handguns are used in crimes?
3) Makes banning evil black rifles look like a pretty stupid idea, doesn't it?
You should look at the article in Wkipaedia on the Glock Semiautomatic Pistol. The magazine or clip is inserted in the grip or handle and magazines containing up to 33 rounds are available for either the standard or compact models using 9mm ammo. With that sort of pistol you don't have to be that good a markman to kill what you want to kill.
So, basically, we have a bunch of leftist ignorant people who cannot read, this document does not fit in with their agenda, and they have nothing except to say, well it's Fox.....that links to a FBI website.....
Why cannot any of you lefties/antigun idiots dispute this data?
Come on, it should be really easy......I mean....those nasty semi-automatic rifle must kill more people than what is in the FBI document.....right....I mean....the MSM says so.....
You should look at the article in Wkipaedia on the Glock Semiautomatic Pistol. The magazine or clip is inserted in the grip or handle and magazines containing up to 33 rounds are available for either the standard or compact models using 9mm ammo. With that sort of pistol you don't have to be that good a markman to kill what you want to kill.
Here is a picture, this way you can stop looking ignorant....
it depends. Are there some mindless morons that call black hammers assault weapons? Ball peens "weapons of choice of criminals"?
I'll explain it to you. The simple minded in this country have focused on rifles, specially black semi-autos as targets to ban, simply because they look scary, not because they have any correlation to crime rates. The op is simply supplying some data (which i realize anti-gun types also consider "scary") in order to put things in perspective.
Makes calls for semi-auto rifle restrictions look pretty moronic, doesn't it?
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