Beloved Chicago muffler store owner city’s fifth homicide of new year (independent, crime)

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by Savoir Faire

Why should the punishment for crime with a gun be worse than a knife?? A crime is a crime.

You gun grabbers are all the same!!

I never mentioned taking LEGALLY owned guns.

Just punishing violent criminals.

[alphamale]

Originally Posted by Savoir Faire

Wrong, I live in Chicago and I know many people who legally own guns, both hand guns and rifles. Your own link says they are legal!! WTF dude!!

Now you can't go around waving them in a bar like the old West, but that doesn't mean they are illegal.

Hee haw!!!

I know. That's why I posted the link. It shows how restrictive gun ownership is.

Besides....your friends don't have guns...they're just happy to see you!

[tablemtn]

Here in Seattle I have rarely experienced what I did in Chicago.

But the thing is, if you drive a few miles north on I-5, you'd end up in Vancouver, BC, which has even fewer murders than Seattle, and basically no legal concealed-carry at all. So it would seem as though there may be more differences between Chicago and Seattle than just the gun laws, in terms of crime rates.

[Savoir Faire]

Originally Posted by alphamale

I know. That's why I posted the link. It shows how restrictive gun ownership is.

Besides....your friends don't have guns...they're just happy to see you!

You just admitted that there is gun ownership, therefore negating your assertion that they are illegal.

Why do you resort to homoerotic jokes?? Has nothing to do with the topic.

[Earlyretired]

Originally Posted by Savoir Faire

Right...... Some murdering thugs kill an innocent man and Obama is the first thing that pops in your head.

Stay stupid tea party.

0bama is a murdering thug who ships weapons to other murdering thugs in places like Mexico, Libya, Syria and likely even the gang bangers in Chicago...

So yea it's not hard to come to that conclusion...

No real benefit to the agenda to dance in the blood in Chicago where gun control has failed miserably though...

[Savoir Faire]

Originally Posted by tablemtn

But the thing is, if you drive a few miles north on I-5, you'd end up in Vancouver, BC, which has even fewer murders than Seattle, and basically no legal concealed-carry at all. So it would seem as though there may be more differences between Chicago and Seattle than just the gun laws, in terms of crime rates.

Drive a few miles east of Chicago and you are in Gary Indiana, which allows conceal and carry, and the murder rate is triple.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by tablemtn

But the thing is, if you drive a few miles north on I-5, you'd end up in Vancouver, BC, which has even fewer murders than Seattle, and basically no legal concealed-carry at all. So it would seem as though there may be more differences between Chicago and Seattle than just the gun laws, in terms of crime rates.

A lot of it has to do with the condition of the neighborhoods. In Seattle and Vancouver, you can't find neighborhoods in the condition that some of the neighborhoods in Southside Chicago and in some parts of West Chicago.

[Huckleberry3911948]

There is a huge straw purchase black market for guns from northern ms to Chicago
Criminals don't buy legal guns

[It'sAutomatic]

Chicago guns come from states with weak laws.

There are two options here:
-Make it easier for people in Illinois to get guns so the people who run around with guns from Mississippi have a harder time slaughtering people.
-Make it harder for people to get guns in Mississippi.

I feel a little better about the second option.

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Has to be a made up story by Fox News.....hand guns are illegal in Chicago.

Quite a demonstration of how effective strict gun control laws are, isn't it? Not that "gun control" laws were ever intended to reduce crime.