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Old 01-04-2013, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Firearms and ammunition are among the few products that still have a large manufacturing presence in the United States. We've also seen a good increase in in the number of people buying firearms and ammunition, as well as getting concealled carry permits, and taking responsibility for their own defense. All the while, violent crime rates have been dropping.

These are all things that should be encouraged. We want CCW holders to practice and be safe and proficient. Proper training is encouraged by both pro and anti gun people. And of course firearms manufacturing both provides "direct" employement, but also in related industries producting machine tools and specialty steels and aluminum.

We have "tax credits" for all kinds of behaviour we want to encourage. Things like purchasing solar panels, energy efficient appliences, wind farms. It only makes sense to do the same with firearms and especially with training classes and ammunition.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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Define large. The whole civilian firearm industry is like 10 billion total. That is a fraction of a fraction what Exxon Microsoft Walmart etc make in an hour.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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Oh boy......

This should get good....
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Define large. The whole civilian firearm industry is like 10 billion total. That is a fraction of a fraction what Exxon Microsoft Walmart etc make in an hour.
I would hazzard a guess that the firearms and ammunition production exceeds that of say solar panels. We don't give federal income tax credits to Exxon or Walmart.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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The destruction of an industry is a point overlooked or played down by anti gun types. Of course, they are nearly all "information" workers, who may not even know any one involved in manufacturing, much less really understand what it is like when the mill shuts down, or the mine, or the plant. Ironically, drugs and violence often really take hold when the major employers of towns move out.

I don't want any tax credits, period, so I can't get behind this idea (even if the climate didn't render it 100% impossible.) I want to throw out the tax code and start over with a simple flat tax, but that is irrelevant.

Do you have any info on how many people are employed in gun manufacturing, distribution and retail?
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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The destruction of an industry is a point overlooked or played down by anti gun types. Of course, they are nearly all "information" workers, who may not even know any one involved in manufacturing, much less really understand what it is like when the mill shuts down, or the mine, or the plant. Ironically, drugs and violence often really take hold when the major employers of towns move out.

I don't want any tax credits, period, so I can't get behind this idea (even if the climate didn't render it 100% impossible.) I want to throw out the tax code and start over with a simple flat tax, but that is irrelevant.

Do you have any info on how many people are employed in gun manufacturing, distribution and retail?
Like I said the whole civilian firearm industry involves about 100k people. I read it not to long ago. You can google it and I won't be far off.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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That could work for me. So many guns, so little time
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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Like I said the whole civilian firearm industry involves about 100k people. I read it not to long ago. You can google it and I won't be far off.
Well actually you and the OP are incorrect.

200k employees

32billion in total sales

5 billion in tax revenue.

Approx.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:21 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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How about the gun and ammo makers add a surcharge for items sold to the Fed and anti gun state governments???

The proceeds would be used to defend the 2A against enemies foreign and domestic...
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:23 PM
 
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How about the gun and ammo makers add a surcharge for items sold to the Fed and anti gun state governments???

The proceeds would be used to defend the 2A against enemies foreign and domestic...
Ya gotta love that idea..... brilliant.
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