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Old 01-08-2013, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest View Post
Why are gay couples wanting the legal recognition of marriage then?

They always claim that they pay more in taxes because the government considers them single.
They can claim what they want. Go to one of the free on line tax calculators and check for yourself. There is a Marriage "tax penalty".
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The government uses taxes to modify society. They give tax breaks to incentivize behavior they want and tax incraeses to try to limit behavior they don't want. This is why you get a tax break for buying an energy efficient car, and pay extra taxes on buying cigarettes.

It is good for society to have stable nuclear families, so the government provides tax benefits to married people.

It's no less "fair" for you to pay more taxes as a single person than it is for a smoker to pay high taxes on his cigarettes while a nonsmoker whose vice is chewing gum pays less taxes on his spearmint.
Correct.

Unfortunately, we have idiots in government deciding what behavior they think is good for us. And it's always easy to throw away other people's money.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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You need to move. Most land in America has no lot size or house size restrictions.

Such restrictions are nearly universal outside of rural areas. I would have a hard time livig without a car in a rural area.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Such restrictions are nearly universal outside of rural areas. I would have a hard time livig without a car in a rural area.
Have you considered a condo or townhouse?
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:11 PM
 
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Default You can thank pandering to religious tradition

...for the fact that singles are discriminated against.

The so-called famility values that drives our politics has transported us to a place we will probably never get out of. We are a kid-whipped society (as Bill Maher would say), and that is a sub-text of a family-values whipped society.

Again I say, as stated in another post, the gov't needs to get out of our personal lives -and stop the social-engineering. Conservatives and "R's" are always carping about the nanny state, yet they are constantly promoting the "family values" that put the gov't in the business of administering the kind of social policy that results in discrimination against single people.

Logic would have tax policy recognize that two can live cheaper than one under one roof. There is really no such thing and never has been any real so-called marriage penalty.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Such restrictions are nearly universal outside of rural areas. I would have a hard time livig without a car in a rural area.
Absolutely untrue.
Again, if you're interested, look at HUD homes.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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I don't think they should. I'm single by the way. Married couples with children provide potential future tax payers for the government, so it's very reasonable that those people get more back and have more deductions. I don't find anything wrong with that.
Sure it is reasonable if you really believe that tax policy could subvert one of the strongest drives that human beings have, and that is to procreate.

This type of reasoning is a fallacy. There might be some adverse impact on disposible income in families. And sure, some might plan their families in accordance with their household income. However, maybe then people would stop taking out mega mortages. or wasting their money on other foolish and self-indulgent houshold expenditures.

I do not believe there would be an adverse impact on either future tax revenues or the viability of the human race would be threatened if we had neutral tax policies that do not discriminate and punish people for either choosing to be single -or being unfortunate enough to not find a marriage partner.

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Old 01-08-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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Hasn't anyone heard?

Nowadays it's not getting screwed, it's "paying your fair share".
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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Have you considered a condo or townhouse?

While I wouldn't close that door entirely, I find condos excessively risky for a low-income person. Lenders won't finance individual condos in a development unless a majority of units are owner-occupied.

This means that any condo I can afford is vulnerable to having all the equity stripped in a distress sale.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:52 PM
 
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The government uses taxes to modify society. They give tax breaks to incentivize behavior they want and tax incraeses to try to limit behavior they don't want. This is why you get a tax break for buying an energy efficient car, and pay extra taxes on buying cigarettes.

It is good for society to have stable nuclear families, so the government provides tax benefits to married people.

It's no less "fair" for you to pay more taxes as a single person than it is for a smoker to pay high taxes on his cigarettes while a nonsmoker whose vice is chewing gum pays less taxes on his spearmint.

What would you think is someone started a "marriage of convenience service" where they help people get married (and divorced when appropriate) for purely financial reasons? (i.e. to rake advantage of government favoritism)
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