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Old 01-06-2013, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Here is the answer:
Failure to Stop
The classic .38 caliber revolver, with a capacity of six rounds, was the standard sidearm of the United States Army during the Moro insurrection in the Philippines. The Army found at least one dead Army officer with an empty sidearm, and his head split open by a machete or similar weapon. They also found the soldier's killer, who had finally bled to death. Six rounds of .38 were therefore not enough to convince even one determined attacker.

Police instructor Masaad Ayoob's The Truth About Self Protection adds an incident in which a female police officer saw a crazed gunman murder a woman, who then shot her as well before she could do anything. "She lay helpless as she watched a neighbor empty a .22 rifle into the killer; the neighbor then had to club the madman down with the empty rifle, again and again, before he succumbed."

Ayoob does not report the size of the .22's magazine, but the Moro insurrection exemplifies why even a 30-round rifle clip might not be enough to stop a crazed and determined attacker, such as one hopped up on a drug like PCP. "He had 32 Krag balls through him and was only stopped by the 33rd bullet -- a Colt .45 slug through both ears." The Krag-Jorgensen's 30-caliber cartridge was far more powerful than the .22 in Ayoob's example, but not sufficiently powerful to civilize this particular attacker even when fired in mass.
Articles: Why Does Anybody Need a 30-Round Magazine?
It depends on more than just the caliber, at close range almost any gun is a good choice, hitting the purp in a vital organ is deadly no matter what caliber, but personally I would choose a .45 over a .22, it has a ton of stopping power even if it does not kill the purp on the first shot, it will likely disable him so bad he will not be able to move, which is the result I would be looking for.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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I love the logic, you are in a dark closet and scared but when he opens the door you should check him for weapons and see if he will back up People with this logic should not have guns because they will get shot with their own weapon. I have told the old bird to shoot them in the face and keep shooting, her husband might have told her the same thing.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:25 AM
 
Location: right here
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I love the logic, you are in a dark closet and scared but when he opens the door you should check him for weapons and see if he will back up People with this logic should not have guns because they will get shot with their own weapon. I have told the old bird to shoot them in the face and keep shooting, her husband might have told her the same thing.


That kind of logic will get you killed....
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:26 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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I`m not seeing any gun confiscation here.Show me where you see it in the Washington Post story.I don`t do Breitbart,I only deal in reality.

There you go again, parsing. With the foot in the door, confiscation is the next step. These people are very predictable. Case in point, o and his latest tax speech.

Okay, don't do Breitbart. Gee that's kinda like painting yourself with your own brush.

For me, to be informed is tantamount. I read all sides to every issue that affects me.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:29 AM
 
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The wife is lucky she was able to protect her family!
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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I`ve yet to see one proposal for taking anyone`s guns away and why do you think our elected officials are out to get us?
There are some that want to ban certain weapons.....open your eyes....they may not want to take my weapon from me, but they are taking my ability to buy.

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I`m not seeing any gun confiscation here.Show me where you see it in the Washington Post story.I don`t do Breitbart,I only deal in reality.
It's not that hard, you can play words all you want, but banning, registering, and finger printing is the first step in taking guns away.....

Assault Weapons - Issues - United States Senator Dianne Feinstein

And lets remember, I want someone to buy me a 20oz cup of soda in New York.....any takers?
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Houston
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She should have just appealed to the man's better nature and then started singing "Imagine".
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:38 AM
 
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Did the man threaten her and with what weapon? I read nothing about him not backing off when he saw the gun. Why would she shoot him 5 times though?
Does it matter? What did you want the lady to do? Ask him if he wanted some popcorn and a drink while he looked through all her stuff, while her kids were watching mickey mouse?

People like you, who coddle the criminal, and make the criminal the victim, is why we are in the shape we are in right now.....

I guess you want the criminal to sue the house owner for shooting him....I bet that would make you happy....

Obviously you did not read the link...


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Are we reading something different because I read nothing about a crowbar in the link. In fact, I am asking what weapon he used for him to be shot so many times
The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.
Read more: http://conservativevideos.com/2013/0...#ixzz2HCcEyQph
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:42 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Did the man threaten her and with what weapon? I read nothing about him not backing off when he saw the gun. Why would she shoot him 5 times though?
Because a revolver holds so few bullets. I keep my 9mm 'go to gun' full of 17 round mags!
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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Reports don't even indicate that he had a gun or knife. Was he going to crowbar any occupants to death when any one of them could easily have a much more deadlier or bigger weapon?
Ummm, you do know that in 2011, there were more people beaten to death with blunt objects, such as a crowbar, than people killed with a shotgun and rifle combined.....

No, I guess you did not....
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