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Old 01-07-2013, 09:02 PM
 
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So many of these career politicians are just sucking life blood of this country?.
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22nd amendment states

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
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Why can't we extend this beyond president to governers, senators , reps ?

Patrick leahy -almost 39 years..Orrin hatch 37 years... Amazing that they can "serve" so long...serve themselves and their family


Some of them are too old to work in private sector... Diane feinstein is 80 years old...I am not sure if she can make right decisions ..so is chuck grassley..he is 80 too..

In a 2 party democratic system, "voting is term limit" does not work. Because its the political parties who decide the candidate and not the people. So the only way to limit terms is by legislating a limit.


all political office should have term limits. 2 terms for senators, 6 terms for representitives, 2 terms for the potus and 1 10 year term for all judges.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:03 PM
 
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Term limit? Rep. Jose Serrano just re submitted the bill to end the 22nd amendment. They want Obama to be king.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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Term limit? Rep. Jose Serrano just re submitted the bill to end the 22nd amendment. They want Obama to be king.


good luck getting that passed, will never happen, no matter what obama wants.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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Well that's no the point. The thread was about term limits and our dear comrades in DC are proposing the opposite. Plus they would have to vote on term limits and that bill would never make it out of committee if it ever got there to begin with. Good thing that piece of paper is around and at least they have to go slog back home and beg for votes every two or four years.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Term limit? Rep. Jose Serrano just re submitted the bill to end the 22nd amendment. They want Obama to be king.
"Both the House and the Senate and three-fourths of the states would have to approve the constitutional amendment." This guy has been proposing the same bill ever couple of years, it is dead on arrival just like every other bill he proposes.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well that's no the point. The thread was about term limits and our dear comrades in DC are proposing the opposite. Plus they would have to vote on term limits and that bill would never make it out of committee if it ever got there to begin with. Good thing that piece of paper is around and at least they have to go slog back home and beg for votes every two or four years.
The only way there will be term limits on Congress is if each state holds a majority vote to impose term limits on their own representatives, which is basically the reason for not having an amendment that created term limits for Congress because that was a choice left up to the states.

If you are wondering if I support term limits in Congress, the answer is yes, and I believe districts should be drawn up on population only and not based on politics.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The only way there will be term limits on Congress is if each state holds a majority vote to impose term limits on their own representatives, which is basically the reason for not having an amendment that created term limits for Congress because that was a choice left up to the states.

If you are wondering if I support term limits in Congress, the answer is yes, and I believe districts should be drawn up on population only and not based on politics.
States do not have the constitutional authority to implement term limits even on their own representatives. Constitutional amendment is the only way it will happen -- in other words, it will never happen.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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States do not have the constitutional authority to implement term limits even on their own representatives. Constitutional amendment is the only way it will happen -- in other words, it will never happen.
Guess you are technically right,
U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"...violate a third idea central to this basic principle: that the right to choose representatives belongs not to the States, but to the people."

Though that phrase from the SCOTUS could definitely be questioned, if it is the will of the people, then it is something the people of the country should be able to vote on at a federal level for an all or nothing approval. The beauty of law is that it can always be interpreted differently and the wording can always be questioned.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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So many of these career politicians are just sucking life blood of this country?.
__________________________________
22nd amendment states

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
______________________________

Why can't we extend this beyond president to governers, senators , reps ?

Patrick leahy -almost 39 years..Orrin hatch 37 years... Amazing that they can "serve" so long...serve themselves and their family


Some of them are too old to work in private sector... Diane feinstein is 80 years old...I am not sure if she can make right decisions ..so is chuck grassley..he is 80 too..

In a 2 party democratic system, "voting is term limit" does not work. Because its the political parties who decide the candidate and not the people. So the only way to limit terms is by legislating a limit.
There should be term limits on how many years someone can "serve" in congress. If we can limit the time for presidents, it should be allowed for congress as well. Voting does nothing because the establishment chooses candidates, whomever is most corrupt, and whoever has the most money wins the elections.....a ****ty deal. congress is just as important as the presidential office.....so both should require no more than 2 terms served for any individual.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:37 AM
 
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The political answer to the question is simple: Congressional term limits requires Congressmen deciding to limit their own power. Good luck with that.
Everyone wants limits on everyone else, but never their congress critter.
This has been attempted for at least 4 decades that I can recall.
It's not a new idea.

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If we can limit semi-automatic magazine capacities we should also be able to have term limits on presidents, though it pains me to think of obama as a president.
Huh?
We do have presidential term limits.
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